Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Again, I don't believe it to be a genocide. I'd liken it more to ethnic cleansing, even if I don't think that's the objective.


Do you personally think if human shields are used (as admitted by Hamas) attacks should be stopped? ie. civilian housing/schools/hospitals/mosques, do you think that even if there's concrete evidence Hamas fighters are using these spaces and tactics, the bombings shouldn't happen?
It is literal genocide! By definition!

Now I see why you have ignored, 4 times, my post showing the levelling of the last buildings in a once thriving town

You really are in deep, twisting g everything in order to defend the indefensible

We see you
 
Again, i'm going to need more than a twitter post or your tear-soaked posts - i'm going to need evidence from reputable sources.


And YET again, i'm aware Israel have committed some atrocious actions, as have Hamas and like-minded Palestinians. What I find bizarre is that you can't say the same?
No one is denying for a second what Hamas did yet here you are again denying again Israel’s actions as stated by western medics (intentionally shooting children), the US government (Israel stopping aid) and every source out there(blowing up safe designated zones).

You’re not hiding it any more ffs

Just come out and say it
 
No one is denying for a second what Hamas did yet here you are again denying again Israel’s actions as stated by western medics (intentionally shooting children), the US government (Israel stopping aid) and every source out there(blowing up safe designated zones).

You’re not hiding it any more ffs

Just come out and say it

Where have I denied any of this has happened? You seem to live in your own crazy little world where everyone who doesn't say EXACTLY what you want them to say disagrees with you. You're bringing up acts nobody has mentioned and then accusing me of condoning them.


Have the ICJ found Israel guilty of committing genocide as of yet? They have considerably more information and sway than me, so until they say it's a genocide, i'll not say it is. I'll stick with the EQUALLY DEPLORABLE DESCRIPTION of ethnic cleansing.


Such a weird, weird thread this - it's like it's own little echo-chamber where you HAVE to be fully committed to the Palestinian cause, definitely don't bring up atrocities by any of the Islamic militant groups (they did it because Israel made them) and definitely don't disagree with the terminology of 'genocide'. Oh no, no no. You're definitely a zionist, racist, nazi islamophobe if you do.



No wonder this thread has diminished into a swearing, crying hive of mudslinging - some people can't have calm, reasoned debate without being outraged. You say one thing, I say another, so what? who reaaaalllly cares?
 
I suppose the events of this last week do present a rare opportunity for education aimed at the remaining pro-Israel people. It’s very simple, only one question:

Do you think it’s fair that the Druze population of the Golan should be evicted from the land they’ve occupied for centuries, and be replaced by Israeli settlers?

Normally of course this is an after-the-fact question, but we are probably going to see it happen in the next few years.
 
I suppose the events of this last week do present a rare opportunity for education aimed at the remaining pro-Israel people. It’s very simple, only one question:

Do you think it’s fair that the Druze population of the Golan should be evicted from the land they’ve occupied for centuries, and be replaced by Israeli settlers?

Normally of course this is an after-the-fact question, but we are probably going to see it happen in the next few years.


Absolutely not. Another land grab.
 
Where have I denied any of this has happened? You seem to live in your own crazy little world where everyone who doesn't say EXACTLY what you want them to say disagrees with you. You're bringing up acts nobody has mentioned and then accusing me of condoning them.


Have the ICJ found Israel guilty of committing genocide as of yet? They have considerably more information and sway than me, so until they say it's a genocide, i'll not say it is. I'll stick with the EQUALLY DEPLORABLE DESCRIPTION of ethnic cleansing.


Such a weird, weird thread this - it's like it's own little echo-chamber where you HAVE to be fully committed to the Palestinian cause, definitely don't bring up atrocities by any of the Islamic militant groups (they did it because Israel made them) and definitely don't disagree with the terminology of 'genocide'. Oh no, no no. You're definitely a zionist, racist, nazi islamophobe if you do.



No wonder this thread has diminished into a swearing, crying hive of mudslinging - some people can't have calm, reasoned debate without being outraged. You say one thing, I say another, so what? who reaaaalllly cares?
Mate you literally asked for more evidence despite these bring well publicised facts all over the news. You’re desperate to exonerate Israel of its crimes - you’re tying yourself in knots in going so

At least be a man like corky and own it
 
It is by definition a genocide, for some reason d3noj seems happy with ethnic cleansing as the title it is given

'EQUALLY DEPLORABLE DESCRIPTION of ethnic cleansing.'

not sure you caught this bit mate.

and yes, I've asked for evidence, which you didn't supply - you just had another crying rant about something then accused me of approving of ethnic cleansing. You really make yourself look a bit daft when you go off on these tirades mate, try to calm down a bit - read the post (ACTUALLY read all of it) and then reply in a civilised manner without chucking spurious accusations.
 
Because they've all been cancelled by Hamas for one reason or another. So it's not really wham is it.

I've not mentioned anyone in this thread 'supports' Hamas, although i've seen the phrase 'freedom fighters' bandied about. As for innocent Palestinians, of course nobody wants them to die - like you, i've seen nobody outwardly supporting the death of innocent civilians.
“I’ve not mentioned anyone in this thread is a Hamas supporter, I’ve just implied they are”

Yeah, cool man.

Additionally supporting Israel or the IOF is directly wishing for deaths of innocent civilians given that is predominantly what they are targeting. Often they are specifically targeting Palestinian children’s heads with sniper rifles given the testimony of doctors.
 
“I’ve not mentioned anyone in this thread is a Hamas supporter, I’ve just implied they are”

Yeah, cool man.

Additionally supporting Israel or the IOF is directly wishing for deaths of innocent civilians given that is predominantly what they are targeting. Often they are specifically targeting Palestinian children’s heads with sniper rifles given the testimony of doctors.

I've literally not said anybody supports Hamas, of course I've implied anyone who calls them 'freedom fighters' is a supporter - would be ridiculous to assume otherwise given the atrocities they've been behind.

As for supporting Israel and the IDF is directly wishing for death? That's a bit of a stretch even if I hadn't just spent the past 10 posts condoning them.


Such a weird, weird thread this.
 
I've literally not said anybody supports Hamas, of course I've implied anyone who calls them 'freedom fighters' is a supporter - would be ridiculous to assume otherwise given the atrocities they've been behind.

As for supporting Israel and the IDF is directly wishing for death? That's a bit of a stretch even if I hadn't just spent the past 10 posts condoning them.


Such a weird, weird thread this.
Would you say supporting Ratko Mladic and the Serbian army during the war in Kosovo is wishing for the deaths of innocent Kosovan civilians?

The atrocities Israel has committed in Gaza and Lebanon are at least as severe as those committed there, much as I find ranking atrocities distasteful.
 
Again, im not sure if you're hard of hearing or something -

I can condone the actions of Israel.
I can condone the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.


Where does it state ANYWHERE i'm defending their actions. What i'm doing is NOT defending Hamas's actions - because they were deporable.
You condone Israel and you condone Hamas and supporters.

So you don't condemn anything.

How very forgiving of you.
 
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