Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Again, im not sure if you're hard of hearing or something -

I can condone the actions of Israel.
I can condone the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.


Where does it state ANYWHERE i'm defending their actions. What i'm doing is NOT defending Hamas's actions - because they were deporable.
I look back at your posts in this thread, most are defending or at least excusing Israels actions
 

Former Irish ambassador to the US Daniel Mulhall rejected claims that Ireland is an anti-Semitic state, saying that Ireland is only opposed to “certain aspects of Israeli government policy”.



“We’re not anti Israeli, we’re not anti-Jewish, and we’re not anti-Semitic,” Mulhall told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.



“We simply have concerns. If somebody criticizes Ireland for some particular move we’ve made, it doesn’t make them anti-Irish.”
 
PRETTY sure i've just stated 'Everything happening over there is awful - but lets not pretend that Hamas aren't brutal savages'


Struggling to see an endorsement, unless you speak a different kind of English to me? what i'm saying is as follows, try to keep up.

Israel are doing bad things. Have done for years, we all know that.
Palestinians, Hamas and it's factions are doing bad things, have done for years.
I can condone the actions of Israel.
I can condone the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.
I would have very much preferred Hamas and it's allied militant groups to have sat around a table and sought peace, instead of raping, butchering and torturing over 1200 innocent people. There are ways and means - Hamas knew they were starting a war incapable of winning.
Hamas use human shields, then proclaim 'murdering women and children' when said human shields are killed as a result of said war they started.

Again so you can read it.

I can condone the actions of Israel.
I can condone the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.


All of this isn't difficult to understand.
Not sure if your auto-correct is broken, but you are condoning the actions of Hamas?
 

Former Irish ambassador to the US Daniel Mulhall rejected claims that Ireland is an anti-Semitic state, saying that Ireland is only opposed to “certain aspects of Israeli government policy”.



“We’re not anti Israeli, we’re not anti-Jewish, and we’re not anti-Semitic,” Mulhall told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland.



“We simply have concerns. If somebody criticizes Ireland for some particular move we’ve made, it doesn’t make them anti-Irish.”
You must completely endorse the agenda of this far-right Israeli government; otherwise, you risk being labeled antisemitic.
 
Not sure if your auto-correct is broken, but you are condoning the actions of Hamas?

:lol::eek: I reaaaallllly should have re-read what I typed!

i'll start again.


PRETTY sure i've just stated 'Everything happening over there is awful - but lets not pretend that Hamas aren't brutal savages'


Struggling to see an endorsement, unless you speak a different kind of English to me? what i'm saying is as follows, try to keep up.

Israel are doing bad things. Have done for years, we all know that.
Palestinians, Hamas and it's factions are doing bad things, have done for years.
I can condemn the actions of Israel.
I can condemn the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.
I would have very much preferred Hamas and it's allied militant groups to have sat around a table and sought peace, instead of raping, butchering and torturing over 1200 innocent people. There are ways and means - Hamas knew they were starting a war incapable of winning.
Hamas use human shields, then proclaim 'murdering women and children' when said human shields are killed as a result of said war they started.

Again so you can read it.

I can condemn the actions of Israel.
I can condemn the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.



Thanks for that - i'm sat at work concentrating on 3 things, this obviously isn't the most important.
 
You're going to have to give me quotes on this mate, i've been pretty consistent in my viewpoints.
Yes, yes you have!

Have read back of your own posts - almost all clearly side with Israel

This particular one has not aged well, the highlighted parts now known to be lies

"Do you actually believe that children are being specifically targeted? The IDF do leaflet drops in areas to allow civilians time and safe passage to leave before bombings - but then target children? Does that add up to you?

As for the starvation - isn't it also widely reported that aid is stolen be Hamas and it's front, UNRWA?

'Palestinians cooperating with Israel to distribute aid in Gaza will be viewed as collaborators and treated with an iron fist, a Hamas-linked website said on March 11. Under Hamas rule, collaboration with Israel is a crime punishable by death.'

'Israel has repeatedly emphasized that it is fighting against Hamas, not Palestinian civilians. Israel’s Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories — the agency responsible for getting aid into Gaza — has said that “there is no limit to the amount of aid that can enter Gaza.” Rejecting complaints from international agencies about the allegedly low volume of aid reaching Gaza, Israeli government spokesperson Eylon Levy said on X on March 7, “Israel is letting adequate aid in, but the aid distribution mechanisms in Gaza are plainly inadequate. Because the UN relies on [the] Hamas front UNRWA [United Nations Relief and Works Agency] and Hamas protection. So we’re working on new ways with [the] private sector, to compensate for that systemic failure.'"
 
:lol::eek: I reaaaallllly should have re-read what I typed!

i'll start again.


PRETTY sure i've just stated 'Everything happening over there is awful - but lets not pretend that Hamas aren't brutal savages'


Struggling to see an endorsement, unless you speak a different kind of English to me? what i'm saying is as follows, try to keep up.

Israel are doing bad things. Have done for years, we all know that.
Palestinians, Hamas and it's factions are doing bad things, have done for years.
I can condemn the actions of Israel.
I can condemn the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.
I would have very much preferred Hamas and it's allied militant groups to have sat around a table and sought peace, instead of raping, butchering and torturing over 1200 innocent people. There are ways and means - Hamas knew they were starting a war incapable of winning.
Hamas use human shields, then proclaim 'murdering women and children' when said human shields are killed as a result of said war they started.

Again so you can read it.

I can condemn the actions of Israel.
I can condemn the actions of Hamas and Palestinians sympathetic to their cause.



Thanks for that - i'm sat at work concentrating on 3 things, this obviously isn't the most important.
Do you condemn the genocide?
 
Yes, yes you have!

Have read back of your own posts - almost all clearly side with Israel

This particular one has not aged well, the highlighted parts now known to be lies

"Do you actually believe that children are being specifically targeted? The IDF do leaflet drops in areas to allow civilians time and safe passage to leave before bombings - but then target children? Does that add up to you?

As for the starvation - isn't it also widely reported that aid is stolen be Hamas and it's front, UNRWA?

'Palestinians cooperating with Israel to distribute aid in Gaza will be viewed as collaborators and treated with an iron fist, a Hamas-linked website said on March 11. Under Hamas rule, collaboration with Israel is a crime punishable by death.'

'Israel has repeatedly emphasized that it is fighting against Hamas, not Palestinian civilians. Israel’s Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories — the agency responsible for getting aid into Gaza — has said that “there is no limit to the amount of aid that can enter Gaza.” Rejecting complaints from international agencies about the allegedly low volume of aid reaching Gaza, Israeli government spokesperson Eylon Levy said on X on March 7, “Israel is letting adequate aid in, but the aid distribution mechanisms in Gaza are plainly inadequate. Because the UN relies on [the] Hamas front UNRWA [United Nations Relief and Works Agency] and Hamas protection. So we’re working on new ways with [the] private sector, to compensate for that systemic failure.'"


Where has it been proven to be fake? Thats news to me - if i'm wrong, so be it - but I was under the impression from many outlets that there were phone calls and leaflet drops. Where does it show its proven false?
 
Where has it been proven to be fake? Thats news to me - if i'm wrong, so be it - but I was under the impression from many outlets that there were phone calls and leaflet drops. Where does it show its proven false?
They have been proven to be shooting children. They have been proven to be telling people to leave then bombing the safe zone. They have also beenproven to have said they asked people to move, the people have then stated they were never given any warning. They have been proven to have been stopping aid, many many times.

Mate, your odd pretence of not 'siding' yet desperately clinging to any hope of exonerating Israeli war crimes is bizarre tbh
 
Do you condemn the genocide?

Again, I don't believe it to be a genocide. I'd liken it more to ethnic cleansing, even if I don't think that's the objective.


Do you personally think if human shields are used (as admitted by Hamas) attacks should be stopped? ie. civilian housing/schools/hospitals/mosques, do you think that even if there's concrete evidence Hamas fighters are using these spaces and tactics, the bombings shouldn't happen?
 
Again, I don't believe it to be a genocide. I'd liken it more to ethnic cleansing, even if I don't think that's the objective.


Do you personally think if human shields are used (as admitted by Hamas) attacks should be stopped? ie. civilian housing/schools/hospitals/mosques, do you think that even if there's concrete evidence Hamas fighters are using these spaces and tactics, the bombings shouldn't happen?
Ethnic cleansing has been the objective since 1948. Only a fool believes otherwise.

They have already stated that Palestinans will not return to Northern Gaza.
 
They have been proven to be shooting children. They have been proven to be telling people to leave then bombing the safe zone. They have also beenproven to have said they asked people to move, the people have then stated they were never given any warning. They have been proven to have been stopping aid, many many times.

Mate, your odd pretence of not 'siding' yet desperately clinging to any hope of exonerating Israeli war crimes is bizarre tbh

Again, i'm going to need more than a twitter post or your tear-soaked posts - i'm going to need evidence from reputable sources.


And YET again, i'm aware Israel have committed some atrocious actions, as have Hamas and like-minded Palestinians. What I find bizarre is that you can't say the same?
 
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