Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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I have heard the Israeli gov stating that as Hamas is based in/under Gaza, as is their weapons manufacture, communications etc that it would be self defeating for Israel to continue to supply a sworn enemy hell bent on your destruction with the services that they need to do so. I'd suggest that this is sadly true but is mainly an opportunity for Bibi to go hard and ignore his obligations to international law.
 
I have heard the Israeli gov stating that as Hamas is based in/under Gaza, as is their weapons manufacture, communications etc that it would be self defeating for Israel to continue to supply a sworn enemy hell bent on your destruction with the services that they need to do so. I'd suggest that this is sadly true but is mainly an opportunity for Bibi to go hard and ignore his obligations to international law.
what a piece of filth this guy is they are totally off their rockers and they wonder why people don't like them
 
Not only is this the same vile logic that Hamas used to excuse murdering civilians but a significant percentage of Gaza’s population is kids - how the hell is a toddler meant to do a coup d’etat?

Oh. So Israeli's who don't want to kill innocent children need to rise up and perform a coup, or forever be damned by association ?
 
Not only is this the same vile logic that Hamas used to excuse murdering civilians but a significant percentage of Gaza’s population is kids - how the hell is a toddler meant to do a coup d’etat?

The children are rightfully getting the concern of normal humans but this is equally terrible.

 
Let's not derail the thread but he is seen as a Hamas sympathiser. Hamas have just committed the worst terrorist atrocity, and akin to the barbarity of ISIS, since 9/11. We need unified voices that can influence Israeli actions, he will just give Bibi PR ammo.
Is being a Hamas sympathiser any different to being an Israel sympathiser? I mean the latter are responsible for twenty times (and rapidly climbing) the number of deaths the Palestinians have. (EDIT - that figure is wrong, the number of deaths caused by Hamas is much lower again).
This is back to the rhetoric that Israel are the victims here. Last weekend aside, they are the aggressor.

As Israel flattens a city with 1 million children, where are the cries for them to condemned by world leaders??
 
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Agreed. The Israelis seem under a terrible misapprehension about the direction in which the media causal arrow runs.

What they have done to the Palestinians currently is contained behind a dam. If they do sufficiently terrible things in Gaza, the dam breaks. There will be appetite to hear the other side of the story, the media will start running all the stories the editors killed in the past and the narrative flips. It won't turn into "Hamas are my friends," but the stories will start bringing political pressure to bear on Western governments to put stringent conditions on Israeli assistance.

The Israelis seem to think they have enough editorial friends to keep things contained no matter what, but they appear to forget those editors report to owners motivated by profit and prestige. As is so often the case with human beings, a lack of consequences for past actions has rendered them arrogant. They seem to believe that they are untouchable in Western media, which is only true up to a point.

I would have thought that Netanyahu of all people would recall Kissinger's maxim that nations do not have friends, they have interests. That's more or less true when it comes to workplace politics, as well.

Indeed, and this has already started - even the Mail have had at least two articles over the past few days (one by Col. Tim Collins) clearly stating going in on the ground as a mass would be disastrous. They even published a sympathetic account of that BBC reporter in Gaza who found his friends and family had been bombed, though the comments section was a disgrace.
 
Is being a Hamas sympathiser any different to being an Israel sympathiser? I mean the latter are responsible for twenty times (and rapidly climbing) the number of deaths the Palestinians have. (EDIT - that figure is wrong, the number of deaths caused by Hamas is much lower again).
This is back to the rhetoric that Israel are the victims here. Last weekend aside, they are the aggressor.

As Israel flattens a city with 1 million children, where are the cries for them to condemned by world leaders??

Most of the world is calling for either an immediate ceasefire and the cessation of all attacks on civilians, or the cessation of attacks on civilians.

The UN, the WHO, the EU, the Catholic Church, all the regional countries (apart from Iran). A small number of countries aren’t, but are mouthing platitudes about sticking to international law.
 
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