Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Milkman]

He is such a devisive character, the further he stays away from this the better, IMO.

That's an odd take. You could say that he's one of the few public figures who is actually speaking truthfully at the moment.

Are we meant to wait for the serious grown-up politicians to come to a collective realisation that backing state terrorism isn't a good look?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

That's an odd take. You could say that he's one of the few public figures who is actually speaking truthfully at the moment.

Are we meant to wait for the serious grown-up politicians to come to a collective realisation that backing state terrorism isn't a good look?

Let's not derail the thread but he is seen as a Hamas sympathiser. Hamas have just committed the worst terrorist atrocity, and akin to the barbarity of ISIS, since 9/11. We need unified voices that can influence Israeli actions, he will just give Bibi PR ammo.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

At the same time we have practically every world leader rubbing shoulders with the Israelis and their mass murder.

At least Corbs has the nuts to stand up.

He does, but it will be grist to the mill of the right wing media and anyone who voted Boris over him in 2019.

 

[tsubaki]

He does, but it will be grist to the mill of the right wing media and anyone who voted Boris over him in 2019.

It’s a tough choice between believing someone who has been right on most foreign policy issues (and especially this one) and the right wing media (and those who believe it).

 

[Blue 1]

Just heard Mike Parry call all Arabs uncivilised nutters because of what Hamas did.

No nuance there with that blimp

He is an absolute moron.

 

[tsubaki]

Let's not derail the thread but he is seen as a Hamas sympathiser. Hamas have just committed the worst terrorist atrocity, and akin to the barbarity of ISIS, since 9/11. We need unified voices that can influence Israeli actions, he will just give Bibi PR ammo.

“Seen as divisive”… “seen as a Hamas sympathiser”… these are just excuses not to listen to him, put out by people who were in political conflict with him, and who as we now see appear to have no interest in giving Israel wise advice.

I agree someone needs to tell those idiots at the top of the Israeli government that they are deliberately walking into an immense disaster, and as far as I can see the UN, the WTO, all the states of the region, the EU (sort of) and most of the rest of the world are doing this. The only exceptions are the imbeciles who currently oversee our governments.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

It’s a tough choice between believing someone who has been right on most foreign policy issues (and especially this one) and the right wing media (and those who believe it).

We both know that it doesn't work like that for a good portion of folk though, like it or not.

 

[Blue 1]

Giving the National Security portfolio to Itamar Ben-Gvir has to rank among the most evil things Netanyahu has done in a life of evil.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Let's not derail the thread but he is seen as a Hamas sympathiser. Hamas have just committed the worst terrorist atrocity, and akin to the barbarity of ISIS, since 9/11. We need unified voices that can influence Israeli actions, he will just give Bibi PR ammo.

Some would say the same for those that fully sympathise with Israel though..

Snipers shooting kids in the head in the street is not something that should be forgotten about.

You add up what Israel has done over the last 20 odd years...

BOTH sides need to stop immediately and Jeremy Corbyn is the only politician with the balls saying so currently.. (in the UK i add)

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

“Seen as divisive”… “seen as a Hamas sympathiser”… these are just excuses not to listen to him, put out by people who were in political conflict with him, and who as we now see appear to have no interest in giving Israel wise advice.

I agree someone needs to tell those idiots at the top of the Israeli government that they are deliberately walking into an immense disaster, and as far as I can see the UN, the WTO, all the states of the region, the EU (sort of) and most of the rest of the world are doing this. The only exceptions are the imbeciles who currently oversee our governments.

The poor choices of his past will just add fuel to the Israeli/Bibi fire, IMO. The gutter press exist to ramp up the kind of division that came in his wake.

Things are bad and it feels like Israel are about to blow the lid of the region. We need unifying voices, if they exist.

 

[Tramps_mate]

The poor choices of his past will just add fuel to the Israeli/Bibi fire, IMO. The gutter press exist to ramp up the kind of division that came in his wake.

Things are bad and it feels like Israel are about to blow the lid of the region. We need unifying voices, if they exist.

This. I cant see where enough will come from!!

 

[Yarrgh]

Russia have been using phosphorous weapons upon Ukraine civilian populations for two years but I've not seen you call this out.

They've been accused but nothing proven.

If they thought that they could, they would.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Some would say the same for those that fully sympathise with Israel though..

Snipers shooting kids in the head in the street is not something that should be forgotten about.

You add up what Israel has done over the last 20 odd years...

BOTH sides need to stop immediately and Jeremy Corbyn is the only politician with the balls saying so currently..

Has he condemned what Hamas did at the weekend yet? I'm sure he must have somewhere and that should rightly lead any narrative, followed by a clear message that Israel targetting civilian areas has to stop.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

They've been accused but nothing proven.

If they thought that they could, they would.

They use thermite which is an incendiary (magnesium based). Still really nasty.

Under the Geneva convention any incendiary device is banned if used against the civilian population or in built up urban areas.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

They've been accused but nothing proven.

If they thought that they could, they would.

The footage could have been magnesium incendiary weapons, the outcome for those below much the same. It is all very sad.