Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Spadge Vernacular]

They use thermite which is an incendiary (magnesium based). Still really nasty.

Under the Geneva convention any incendiary device is banned if used against the civilian population or in built up urban areas.

I was typing the same, apologies.

 

[Milkman]

Has he condemned what Hamas did at the weekend yet? I'm sure he must have somewhere and that should rightly lead any narrative, followed by a clear message that Israel targetting civilian areas has to stop.

I don't think anything sums up the want-to-bang-my-head-against-the-wall-repeatedly discourse around Jeremy Corbyn more than this comment.

You replied to an article that I posted in which – had you even skim read it – leads with a condemnation of Hamas and the barbaric events of last weekend.

But he's too unelectable divisive.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

He is an absolute moron.

Does he lurk here, i swear blind he does. At least there are a few posters who at least listen to him intently and regurgitate his nonsense...

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I don't think anything sums up the want-to-bang-my-head-against-the-wall-repeatedly discourse around Jeremy Corbyn more than this comment.

You replied to an article that I posted in which – had you even skim read it – leads with a condemnation of Hamas and the barbaric events of last weekend.

But he's too unelectable divisive.

That's sensible of him but the fact is, even though you are ignoring what I am saying, him describing Hamas as his friends and meeting and being pictured with them is problematic. We need voices that cannot be used to deflect, divide and shape the narrative in Bibi's favour.

 

[Milkman]

That's sensible of him but the fact is, even though you are ignoring what I am saying, him describing Hamas as his friends and meeting and being pictured with them is problematic. We need voices that cannot be used to deflect, divide and shape the narrative in Bibi's favour.

Absolutely. The problem being that those voices are usually repressed or destroyed by our beloved media.

 

[Martin Alvito]

“Seen as divisive”… “seen as a Hamas sympathiser”… these are just excuses not to listen to him, put out by people who were in political conflict with him, and who as we now see appear to have no interest in giving Israel wise advice.

I agree someone needs to tell those idiots at the top of the Israeli government that they are deliberately walking into an immense disaster, and as far as I can see the UN, the WTO, all the states of the region, the EU (sort of) and most of the rest of the world are doing this. The only exceptions are the imbeciles who currently oversee our governments.

Agreed. The Israelis seem under a terrible misapprehension about the direction in which the media causal arrow runs.

What they have done to the Palestinians currently is contained behind a dam. If they do sufficiently terrible things in Gaza, the dam breaks. There will be appetite to hear the other side of the story, the media will start running all the stories the editors killed in the past and the narrative flips. It won't turn into "Hamas are my friends," but the stories will start bringing political pressure to bear on Western governments to put stringent conditions on Israeli assistance.

The Israelis seem to think they have enough editorial friends to keep things contained no matter what, but they appear to forget those editors report to owners motivated by profit and prestige. As is so often the case with human beings, a lack of consequences for past actions has rendered them arrogant. They seem to believe that they are untouchable in Western media, which is only true up to a point.

I would have thought that Netanyahu of all people would recall Kissinger's maxim that nations do not have friends, they have interests. That's more or less true when it comes to workplace politics, as well.

 

[LostLegend]

Well, bye then I guess?

 

[davek]

Well, bye then I guess?

He also states he wants no equivalency drawn between the victims of Hamas and the victims - 2,500 so far - of the Israeli bombing of Gaza.

I'll leave you to ponder what the value is of having such a 'man of God' at the helm of the Faith In Football group.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

He also states he wants no equivalency drawn between the victims of Hamas and the victims - 2,500 so far - of the Israeli bombing of Gaza.

I'll leave you to ponder what the value is of having such a 'man of God' at the helm of the Faith In Football group.

At this time, it might have been helpful show a split of the colours of both israel and Palestine together. Anything taking sides won't help to bring people together, and it is the people of both communities who are suffering.

 

[mightymoyes]

He also states he wants no equivalency drawn between the victims of Hamas and the victims - 2,500 so far - of the Israeli bombing of Gaza.

I'll leave you to ponder what the value is of having such a 'man of God' at the helm of the Faith In Football group.

exactly, good riddance

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

1.1 million people can't all get out in that time of course, but it gives the Israeli government a chance to say "well, we gave them a chance. It's all on them now"

Cynical disgusting stuff

 

[mightymoyes]

At this time, it might have been helpful show a split of the colours of both israel and Palestine together. Anything taking sides won't help to bring people together, and it is the people of both communities who are suffering.

the establishment mouthpieces and racists don't want that, they see Israeli lives as worth more than the Palestinians.

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[Toffeeslam]

If hamas have done what is reported,have they done this as they want an all out war? Apologies for lack of knowledge, the acts just seem so extreme with no goal

Personally it’s probably because of the rumours going around that Saudi Arabia and Israel was inching closer to normalisation which would be a huge blow to their cause.

The retaliation from Israelis would be massive causing huge loss of life to Palestinians and thus this would scupper those normalisation efforts and put pressure on the states that have already normalised.

My opinion of course

 

[Toffeeslam]

Dangerous if true