I have not seen one person lay it at the feet of individual ISraelis (Netenyahu aside) but the Israeli state and its 50 years of murder and oppression.
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RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: With depressing predictability, the anti-Semites are out on the streets of Britain again, in the absurd guise of condemning Israeli 'aggression'.www.dailymail.co.uk
A very, very good article.
When @petis your only supporter and Richard Littlejohn is your mouthpiece its fair to say you're on thin ice! All these recent atrocities are terrible but it's literally as far removed from a black and white good vs bad situation as you can get!
and @Zatara
You seem to think these things dont happen. The following is a UN report from just one month this year (educate yourself):
GENEVA (13 February 2023) – The international community must take action to stop systematic and deliberate housing demolition and sealing, arbitrary displacement and forced evictions of Palestinian people in the occupied West Bank, UN experts* said today.
In the month of January 2023 alone, Israeli authorities reportedly demolished 132 Palestinian structures across 38 communities in the occupied West Bank, including 34 residential and 15 donor-funded structures. This figure represents a 135 percent increase, compared to the same period in 2022, and includes five punitive demolitions.
“The systematic demolition of Palestinian homes, erection of illegal Israeli settlements and systematic denial of building permits for Palestinians in the occupied West Bank amounts to “domicide”.
The experts reiterated their concern over the situation in Masafer Yatta, where over 1,100 Palestinian residents remain at imminent risk of forced eviction, arbitrary displacement and demolitions of their homes, livelihood, water and sanitation structures. In November 2022, Israeli authorities demolished a donor-funded school in Isfey al Fauqa. Four other schools in the area are under demolition orders.
“Direct attacks on the Palestinian people’s homes, schools, livelihoods and water sources are nothing but Israel’s attempts to curtail the Palestinians’ right to self-determination and to threaten their very existence,” the experts said.
“Israel’s tactics of forcibly displacing and evicting the Palestinian population appear to have no limits. In occupied East Jerusalem, tens of Palestinian families also face imminent risks of forced evictions and displacement, due to discriminatory zoning and planning regimes that favour Israeli settlement expansion – the act that is illegal under international law and amounts to a war crime.”
The experts also expressed alarm at the Israeli Government’s endorsement and escalated practice of punitive evictions and demolitions, and other punitive measures applied to alleged perpetrators of “terrorist” attacks and their family members, such as revoking identity documents, citizenship and residency rights and social security benefits.
On 29 January, Israeli authorities announced measures to immediately seal off family homes of those suspected of carrying out the attacks on 27 and 28 January in occupied East Jerusalem, including the attack in the Neve Yacoub settlement on 27 January which killed at least seven Israelis. Two families of the alleged attackers were forcibly evicted from their homes, and more than 40 people, including family members, were reportedly arrested in relation to the attacks.
“The rule of law must prevail in any State action against acts of violence. The sealing of family homes of suspected offenders and the subsequent demolition of their homes is in fundamental disrespect of international human rights norms and the rule of law. Such acts amount to collective punishment which is strictly prohibited under international law,” the experts said.
“We regret that impunity prevails, in particular for human rights violations and potential war crimes committed by the occupying power. It is high time for international adjudication bodies to determine the nature of the Israeli occupation and seek justice and accountability for all crimes committed in the occupied Palestinian territory,” the UN experts said.
The experts have repeatedly raised concerns with the Government of Israel on these issues. No response has been received to date.
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Been on mine for several years just for the transfer guff.
Since 2008 6,400 Palestinians and 300 Israelis have been killed in this conflict (and that’s only by direct violence, not including enforced droughts and famines) for reference 6,400 is around 4 times the entire number of people killed in the troubles in Ireland over 30 years.
In addition to that 6,400, there are literally thousands of Palestinians who have been detained with no release date or charge indefinitely. According to the United Nations, 81% of the population in Gaza lives in poverty with food insecurity plaguing 63% of Gaza citizens. The poverty rate is 46.6%, and access to clean water and electricity remains inaccessible at "crisis" levels, the agency states. It’s hard to describe how brutal and cruel the regime these people have to live under is.
From what I've seen, no there absolutely isn't.
In fact, the only person this applies to so far is that anti-Semitic knob from last night and Mr 'Hamas is bad why won't anybody agree with me' Zatara
Billy Dean
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I'm sure there are plenty of Israelis in Israel who are against what their government is doing. But realistically what are they supposed to do about it? They can protest and I'm sure there are groups that do that. But protests generally don't achieve very much.
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lol lol lol
Gaza: if hundreds of Palestinian kids assembled for ANYTHING there'd be an attack.
FFS.
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He certainly makes up a lot of stuff in his own head and runs with it
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I think people are just pointing out that the actions of the Israeli government have consequences. I think most of us here have full sympathy for the Israeli victims, just as we do for the people in Gaza who are now being hit even worse.
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But it's still labeled (on the whole) as an "Israeli" issue, and by association a Jewish one too.
The current regime, and the ones before it have stoked that fire, undoubtedly.
My point was, if I happened to be Jewish and reading this thread I'd feel more than a little uncomfortable.
I mean, blame the Israelis. Fine.
Rewind a few years.
Blame the Germans.
Go back further, blame those taking part in the 2nd crusade.
Even further, how about the Romans? How about the Babalonians?
My examples above are purely to show how utterly ridiculous it is to try and opportion blame on anybody.
The whole thing is utterly fckd and it's not getting fixed.
The annoying thing is the people that ignore it. The Israeli machine has gone to great efforts to turn anti israeli comments into anti semitic and it has worked. No one dares criticise for fear of the backlash. Even the UN and Amnesty have been totally ignored on this really. There is more upset about Chinas treatment of minorities in recent years than decades of Israeli abuses.
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He reminds me of Kieran, in the sense that his posts are so tedious I can just instantly scroll past them and don't even need to put him on ignore. That goes for his football posts too let alone his posts in CA.
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Am I the only one that think this absolutely reeks of covert Russian support of Hamas?
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