Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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My point being that this ‘element of sovereignty’ will continue and incessantly grow, until being part of the old British Empire will seem like absolute freedom.....if you don’t see this, then fine....
I think we prefer having unrestricted freedom to travel and work in 26 other countries and the sharing of values and a common currency to being subject to being told what to do while being pointed at by the barrel of a gun.

Funny though.
 
How else would a free market open economy work? How would any state other than the biggest have an economy. States have to be free to see and use tax revenues as they see fit.

Every state in the US has autonomy over taxes, other than federal taxes.

Because if you don't harmonize taxation at the top level (ie: the EU in this case, the federal level in the US) you end up with states setting artificially low rates of tax to attract jobs / businesses etc, which results in a race to the bottom in terms of taxation as business plays one state against another and you end up with states in increasing amounts of debt, crumbling infrastructure and increasing pressure put on workers pay, terms and conditions.
 
Not when you consider who brought it in.

Big protest at Carrickcarnan today by Border Communities against Brexit. Hopefully it will be reported on in the UK but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.

“Border Communties against Brexit say the local community will not tolerate a hard border.
As the Brexit deadline looms, they want to highlight how it could detrimentally impact on the region.
On Friday, a spokesman for Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said the Government has no plans to deploy Irish soldiers on the border.
The clarification came after Mr Varadkar was heavily criticised for comments he made in Davos about a worst-case scenario, in which there could be a possible army presence to patrol a hard border.
Mr Varadkar said that in the context of Irish politics and history, physical infrastructure on the border would become a target and that the backstop was needed to avoid a hard border.”

This clown Varadkar is all over the shop and still doesn’t understand that it is his insistence on the backstop that will result in No Deal.....
 
I think we prefer having unrestricted freedom to travel and work in 26 other countries and the sharing of values and a common currency to being subject to being told what to do while being pointed at by the barrel of a gun.

Funny though.

Indeed, though it is ironic that nothing would kick NI off more than if Irish citizens were told that they were going to be treated the same as the residents of those other 26 countries.
 
Not when you consider who brought it in.

Big protest at Carrickcarnan today by Border Communities against Brexit. Hopefully it will be reported on in the UK but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.
It was an embarrassing comment.

Yes, a big crowd down the road and I got to see the wall being imposed at the border. Trump would miss the irony but still be proud of each and everyone of us.
 
I think we prefer having unrestricted freedom to travel and work in 26 other countries and the sharing of values and a common currency to being subject to being told what to do while being pointed at by the barrel of a gun.

Funny though.
[QUOTE="peteblue, post: 6807235, member: 8392"]You have a vivid imagination....[/QUOTE]

You see Pete, that shows your real lack of understanding re the fears of us border residents and Ireland in general. Mark is from one side of the border and I am from the other.

What he has said is not the product of a vivid imagination but a real memory of what we grew up with daily. We grew up in project fear and none of us want to revisit that on our kids no matter how much our obstinance interferes with your wish for a hard Brexit.
 
Indeed. It’s time for Varadkar to stop playing politics. Even today he’s been going on about men in uniform at the border, cameras and an implication of soldiers being used. He is a pillock.....

He’s a very clever politician to be honest with you Pete, I can understand why the UK would be frustrated with him, he’s done a good job looking after the ROI interests, that’s his job really.
 
You see Pete, that shows your real lack of understanding re the fears of us border residents and Ireland in general. Mark is from one side of the border and I am from the other.

What he has said is not the product of a vivid imagination but a real memory of what we grew up with daily. We grew up in project fear and none of us want to revisit that on our kids no matter how much our obstinance interferes with your wish for a hard Brexit.

I didn’t think he was referring to the period during the troubles, but regarding the period when the ROI was part of the British Empire. But if he was then I apologise. No one wants to go back to that period you grew up in. No one wants a hard border, but we are being driven there by these politicians......
 
I didn’t think he was referring to the period during the troubles, but regarding the period when the ROI was part of the British Empire. But if he was then I apologise. No one wants to go back to that period you grew up in. No one wants a hard border, but we are being driven there by these politicians......
Pete he was referring to the troubles. As an In Under10 GAA footballer I had border checks.

At U10 I didn’t even know what my balls where for, I just wanted to to play football.

Will your grandkids ever be asked for proof of identity on their way to their games?
 
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