Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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Indeed, but WTO only refers to trade not people and the EU and ROI can’t just play it their way. The U.K. will not put up a border, it’s written into law, it therefore follows that the only one who can is the ROI/EU, which is what I said in the first place......

Indeed but you cant separate people from a border, for example there are Irish citizens as opposed to Uk citizens across the border. Thats enshrined in ROI constitution and GFA, they are essentially EU citizens.

Now the Uk dont have to put up a border technically you are correct under WTO rules, they do have to secure the border, the specifics of that are broad and loose. However that would have the knock on effect of Belfast being treated differently to say Liverpool or Dover etc. So different regularity or customs rules throughout its claimed border.

Additionally the Uk would be breach of WTO’s non-discrimination rules, particularly “most-favored-nation” treatment (MFN), which means treating one’s trading partners equally. Suppose the UK and EU trade on WTO terms after Brexit. Suppose American fidget spinner arrive in the UK at an English port have to go through controls, but Irish fidget spinners crossing the border into Northern Ireland (also the UK) do not. Then the US could complain that Irish fidget spinners were discriminated against. They weren’t given equal treatment with Irish fidget spinners when they entered the UK.

The US might seek a legal ruling in WTO dispute settlement. Months or years later, the ruling might conclude that the UK had discriminated. So either checks at the English ports would have to be dropped, or checks at the Irish border would have to be set up.

In other words, while no WTO rule actually says the UK will have to set up border checks, the non-discrimination rule may force it to.
 
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So your problem is with the daily mirror headline writers ? Because in the article Cameron said

"Can we be so sure peace and stability on our continent are assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking? “I would never be so rash to make that assumption “
It's not about that @Khalekan he got upset about a guy just making an analogy about the 2nd world war where then was the Great Britain had our backs to the wall over a Brexit issue being under siege in the 2nd world way on BBCs QT - yet the government in the Remain campaign predicted dicy leaving the EU as a third world war may start....
Totally more outrageous imo.......
Anyway they are going ahead to have their own army which everyone stated that Farage was of his head predicting that would ever happen:oops:
I hope all these young voters if we have a 2nd referendum realise they may get a call up to the new EU army .......
If you all think the EU is a great institution who the hell wants to live in an institution......
 
What do you get when you cross e.e. cummings with Enoch Powell?
It's not about that @Khalekan he got upset about a guy just making an analogy about the 2nd world war where then was the Great Britain had our backs to the wall over a Brexit issue being under siege in the 2nd world way on BBCs QT - yet the government in the Remain campaign predicted dicy leaving the EU as a third world war may start....
Totally more outrageous imo.......
Anyway they are going ahead to have their own army which everyone stated that Farage was of his head predicting that would ever happen:oops:
I hope all these young voters if we have a 2nd referendum realise they may get a call up to the new EU army .......
If you all think the EU is a great institution who the hell wants to live in an institution......


By the way, Joseph, could you please define the word "institution"?
 
What do you get when you cross e.e. cummings with Enoch Powell?



By the way, Joseph, could you please define the word "institution"?
definition -
practice, custom, phenomenon, fact, procedure, convention, usage, tradition, rite, ritual, fashion, use, habit, wont;
method, system, routine, way, policy, idea, notion, concept;
rule, law ....
Exactly what we don't have being a member of the EU......
 
definition -
practice, custom, phenomenon, fact, procedure, convention, usage, tradition, rite, ritual, fashion, use, habit, wont;
method, system, routine, way, policy, idea, notion, concept;
rule, law ....
Exactly what we don't have being a member of the EU......

Since when?
 
The Remain side used the ESR analogy in the debates before Brexi
Did they really ? I don't care either way as I had nothing to do with the campaign in the UK.

The point of the newspaper headlines was to remind you that the war ended 73 years ago, yet some of the British media still seem to believe it is continuing which gives rise to opinions like yours.
 
definition -
practice, custom, phenomenon, fact, procedure, convention, usage, tradition, rite, ritual, fashion, use, habit, wont;
method, system, routine, way, policy, idea, notion, concept;
rule, law ....
Exactly what we don't have being a member of the EU......

Ah, I see you've been hitting the Google again.

So you're complaining that the EU is an instution, and "who the hell wants to live in an institution"? - but then when you Googled and copied the definition of "institution", you noticed that all the terms have positive connotations. And in the space of two posts, you've gone from complaining about the EU because it is "an instution" and nobody wants to live in one of those, to complaning that we cannot enjoy the benefits of "an institution" according to Google because we are in the EU.

Serious question: Do you feel like you're generally getting the better of these exchanges, Joseph, and representing the Brexit position effectively? Or do you not think you might perhaps be better off thinking some of this through a bit more carefully first?
 
It's not about that @Khalekan he got upset about a guy just making an analogy about the 2nd world war where then was the Great Britain had our backs to the wall over a Brexit issue being under siege in the 2nd world way on BBCs QT - yet the government in the Remain campaign predicted dicy leaving the EU as a third world war may start....
Totally more outrageous imo.......
Anyway they are going ahead to have their own army which everyone stated that Farage was of his head predicting that would ever happen:oops:
I hope all these young voters if we have a 2nd referendum realise they may get a call up to the new EU army .......
If you all think the EU is a great institution who the hell wants to live in an institution......

I also think the bloke was ridiculous why mention it , I’ve said before I doubt he’s ever seen an anger man never mind put on a uniform. Hardship for him is probably when his missus makes him cook his own tea , it’s just more soundbites from the soundbite brigade .
 
I also think the bloke was ridiculous why mention it , I’ve said before I doubt he’s ever seen an anger man never mind put on a uniform. Hardship for him is probably when his missus makes him cook his own tea , it’s just more soundbites from the soundbite brigade .
So just like then PM using the war anology to Remain in the EU?
 
Did they really ? I don't care either way as I had nothing to do with the campaign in the UK.

The point of the newspaper headlines was to remind you that the war ended 73 years ago, yet some of the British media still seem to believe it is continuing which gives rise to opinions like yours.
We have not had a world war since the end 1945 yet a PM uses it in his campain saying world war 3 may happen project fear at its highest order - just accept our PM uttered those words pre Brexit?......
 
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