Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

[roydo]

Since we joined .....

definition -
practice, custom, phenomenon, fact, procedure, convention, usage, tradition, rite, ritual, fashion, use, habit, wont;
method, system, routine, way, policy, idea, notion, concept;
rule, law ..

So the UK has none of those ^^^^^ now? Blimey.

 

[Khalekan]

It's not about that @Khalekan he got upset about a guy just making an analogy about the 2nd world war where then was the Great Britain had our backs to the wall over a Brexit issue being under siege in the 2nd world way on BBCs QT - yet the government in the Remain campaign predicted dicy leaving the EU as a third world war may start....
Totally more outrageous imo.......
Anyway they are going ahead to have their own army which everyone stated that Farage was of his head predicting that would ever happen
I hope all these young voters if we have a 2nd referendum realise they may get a call up to the new EU army .......
If you all think the EU is a great institution who the hell wants to live in an institution......

No, Joe....ol’ Khal never got “upset” about owt......you are projecting your own emotions.

These are just words on a page to me, written by total strangers whom I will never meet in real life.

You on the other hand were losing it big time and making a fool of yourself over a totally irrelevant statement by a fellow whose only contribution to the debate is to invoke tales of derring do which took place years before he was born.

Get over it.

To paraphrase Samuel Johnson......patriotism is the last refuge of those whom have no reasonable alternative to the mayhem unfolding around them.

 

[abelard]

definition -
practice, custom, phenomenon, fact, procedure, convention, usage, tradition, rite, ritual, fashion, use, habit, wont;
method, system, routine, way, policy, idea, notion, concept;
rule, law ....
Exactly what we don't have being a member of the EU......

Since when?

Since we joined .....

Believe it or not Joseph, I respect your intelligence too much to assume that even you actually believe the nonsense you come up with on here.

 

[Joey66]

Believe it or not Joseph, I respect your intelligence too much to assume that even you actually believe the nonsense you come up with on here.

Ditto lose a referendum then deny democracy- ......

 

[Harryflashman]

So just like then PM using the war anology to Remain in the EU?

again I’ll refer you to my post , did you read th article or the headline ?

"Can we be so sure peace and stability on our continent are assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking? “I would never be so rash to make that assumption “

I think war analogy’s are stupid and I can’t stand Cameron but taking that statement above is anything in particular you disagree with ? Just point me to the bits you particularly don’t like .

 

[abelard]

I think war analogy’s are stupid and I can’t stand Cameron but taking that statement above is anything in particular you disagree with ? Just point me to the bits you particularly don’t like .

The bit where Cameron claims he would never be so rash...

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

We have not had a world war since the end 1945 yet a PM uses it in his campain saying world war 3 may happen project fear at its highest order - just accept our PM uttered those words pre Brexit?......

Says the feller who is trying his utmost to spread fear about UK citizens being conscripted to an EU army if they remain.

You have made yourself look very silly since yesterday when you started with your WW2 analogies. It's rubbish and you know it.

 

[Harryflashman]

Says the feller who is trying his utmost to spread fear about UK citizens being conscripted to an EU army if they remain.

You have made yourself look very silly since yesterday when you started with your WW2 analogies. It's rubbish and you know it.

I Can just see French men patrolling Portsmouth pressganging the youth of England , hitting them over the head and giving them a Euro .

 

[orchard]

This thread needs a hard and thorough vault.

 

[abelard]

Hmmm conscription into the UK army or an EU army?

Whichever one won't immediately get conned into the Americans' latest idiotic adventure, please!

 

[Joey66]

I Can just see French men patrolling Portsmouth pressganging the youth of England , hitting them over the head and giving them a Euro .

The EU army will be overthere like their two parliaments.....

 

[Joey66]

No, Joe....ol’ Khal never got “upset” about owt......you are projecting your own emotions.

These are just words on a page to me, written by total strangers whom I will never meet in real life.

You on the other hand were losing it big time and making a fool of yourself over a totally irrelevant statement by a fellow whose only contribution to the debate is to invoke tales of derring do which took place years before he was born.

Get over it.

To paraphrase Samuel Johnson......patriotism is the last refuge of those whom have no reasonable alternative to the mayhem unfolding around them.

What you went bolistic about it look at your post ......

 

[peteblue]

Indeed but you cant separate people from a border, for example there are Irish citizens as opposed to Uk citizens across the border. Thats enshrined in ROI constitution and GFA, they are essentially EU citizens.

Now the Uk dont have to put up a border technically you are correct under WTO rules, they do have to secure the border, the specifics of that are broad and loose. However that would have the knock on effect of Belfast being treated differently to say Liverpool or Dover etc. So different regularity or customs rules throughout its claimed border.

Additionally the Uk would be breach of WTO’s non-discrimination rules, particularly “most-favored-nation” treatment (MFN), which means treating one’s trading partners equally. Suppose the UK and EU trade on WTO terms after Brexit. Suppose American fidget spinner arrive in the UK at an English port have to go through controls, but Irish fidget spinners crossing the border into Northern Ireland (also the UK) do not. Then the US could complain that Irish fidget spinners were discriminated against. They weren’t given equal treatment with Irish fidget spinners when they entered the UK.

The US might seek a legal ruling in WTO dispute settlement. Months or years later, the ruling might conclude that the UK had discriminated. So either checks at the English ports would have to be dropped, or checks at the Irish border would have to be set up.

In other words, while no WTO rule actually says the UK will have to set up border checks, the non-discrimination rule may force it to.

And with the EU also. This is not a one way street where only the U.K. would be affected. So how would the EU and ROI deal with it ? At the moment the EU and Varadkar always take the political and negotiating view that the ball is in the U.K. court, it’s not, it’s balanced on the net.....

 

[COYBL25]

What do you get when you cross e.e. cummings with Enoch Powell?



By the way, Joseph, could you please define the word "institution"?

Is the correct answer @Joey66 ?

 

[COYBL25]

Believe it or not Joseph, I respect your intelligence too much to assume that even you actually believe the nonsense you come up with on here.

I`ve always found that it`s always best never to assume anything when it comes to Joey.

He is the gift that just keeps on giving.