Holgate Racially Abused By Firmino - The Guardian

[COYBL25]

Short on time I'm afraid mate

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Your tactical awareness of the Everton game plan is very astute.

One blue stick man, surrounded by five red penises

 

[Bungle]

Well this is contrived innit

Both teams keeping their shape so well

One up front with a lack of penetration, fully in keeping with our form this season.

 

[joey_macmo]

Did they? Haven't seen anything about this anywhere.

Well kind of

 

[scratchnsurf]

WTF!?

Not really arsed what some idiot from a forum thinks of me like to be fair,

but on your logic you have zero proof he is a racist, so accusing someone of being racist when they are not is scummy anyway

like I said, there is absolutely no reason why firmino whould do what Holgate has accused him off, the day he admits it or PROVED he did I will walk to each and every single member of this forums houses and eat your toilet paper

Well...

Whenever I go to the toilet, poo or wee, when i'm done I always rip the bottom right of the toilet paper of the unused roll and eat it.

I feel I made need to make a diagram to show what I mean.

I didn't notice I did it until Mrs Ijjy asked why the bottom right was always ripped. Now it's like my calling sign. I can't not do it.
ijjysmith, Dec 31, 2012 Report

I rest my case.

 

[Bungle]

Well kind of

Immediately pounced on by their fans in the replies, none of which appear to understand why what the lip reading specialists have said is completely irrelevant at this stage without the correct footage.

 

[ijjysmith]

Well...

Whenever I go to the toilet, poo or wee, when i'm done I always rip the bottom right of the toilet paper of the unused roll and eat it.

I feel I made need to make a diagram to show what I mean.

I didn't notice I did it until Mrs Ijjy asked why the bottom right was always ripped. Now it's like my calling sign. I can't not do it.
ijjysmith, Dec 31, 2012 Report

I rest my case.

Luckily she kept buying scented bog roll. Took the shine right off it.

I have a whole host of new hobbies if you want a new one though?

 

[joey_macmo]

Edit: already been addressed

 

[joey_macmo]

Immediately pounced on by their fans in the replies, none of which appear to understand why what the lip reading specialists have said is completely irrelevant at this stage without the correct footage.

Apart from that fella from Redmen tv who similarly got pilloried nobody seems to have taken stock from the Suarez & Brewster incidents.

 

[Boss_Blue]

makes points, points made have counter arguments

has no more points to make, so ignores and tells everybody he is ignoring so he gets a few likes from DA HARDCORE BLOOS WHO H8 EVERYTHING RED

whopper

*shows ignored content

Hello mate, your whole argument would appear to be that black people can't be racist and that the RS players would have had words with Firminio if he'd said something racist, despite me providing an example (on video) of the opposite happening when Suarez racially abused Evra.

You have then proceeded to mock your fellow blues for being supportive of an Everton player who has put a complaint in about being racially abused.

At this point you might as well go all in and put a Firminio t shirt on and start trawling through Holgate's Twitter history to see if there are anymore Tweets he can be criticised for.

In conclusion, you appear to be what I like to call a 'gobshite' and I'm willing to take the ban for calling out a supposed Evertonian that would make me ashamed to be a blue if it weren't for the fact that everyone else on here is ripping your disgusting viewpoint apart as well.

Thanks @Ben Grace

 

[Walken]

if he has ran over and shouted the n word, of course they should? they'd at least drag him away angrily and tell him to pipe down, they wouldn't just stroll over as if nothing happened

and come on mate, you can see from the video firmino is irate after being pushed over, he runs over on the bounce shouting his head of

it's like theirs an excuse for every single person bar Holgate who didn't hear it? do you not see what I mean

ref had an ear piece in
Kenny was talking to someone else
lallana and Robertson are both scumbags as well and thought nothing of it

reeks of desperation and trying to convince yourself there is any wrong doing

you are the one right here desperately making a case for Holgate being a liar and using false racism allegations because he pushed someone, you claim you aren't accusing Holgate of that, if that's the case why not pipe down and let the investigation take it's course, instead of acting like firminio's lawyer

 

[whiteshadow]

Did you watch the game on rewind?

lol

 

[Barnfred 55]

did I say they should have went over and told the ref?

if they heard it any person ( you'd hope ) would drag him away and tell him to shut up and don't make it worse than it already was, they would do something, they'd even just turn there head quick, but they have both jhust walked past like nothing has happened

Erm. I think you'll find that within a second, yes 1 second of Masons reaction, 2 Liverpool players, Milner and another, had dragged him away.

 

[jceverton]

The problem with your argument is that you're stating that you think both parties should move on, based on your assumption that nothing racist was said. You say on more than one occasion that you don't know what was said, and then in the next sentence categorically dismiss any racism has occurred. The fact is that you don't know, and none of us do.

You must know what Holgate has accused him of saying? The N word. That is a serious allegation and Holgate reacted angrily to whatever Firmino said. So if Holgate truly believed/believes he was called that then why should he move on? It's not for you or any of us to just dismiss just because we don't think it can be proved. There needs to be a full and proper investigation which is fair to both of them so the FA can determine the most likely event.

The point about Firmino speaking in Portuguese is another red herring which is a dismissal tactic by those who don't want to consider any potential wrongdoing from Firmino. In the Suarez/Evra case, Suarez made comments about Evra being black and made them in Spanish using the word Negro and not the derogatory N word used in English. Firmino could have easily have mouthed or said something linked to Negro which Holgate misinterpreted as the more sinister N word. There is no need in any confrontation to bring up someones skin colour and therefore if Negro or similar was used in Portuguese then Firmino will be charged.

I still see no evidence to suggest that Firmino is or isn't racist, or that Holgate is or isn't a liar. Because as far as I am aware nothing new has been revealed since last week and so we should wait until it has been fully looked in to. The fact that some are accusing Holgate of making it up without knowing that to be true is quite honestly, disgusting.

Good post mate, spot on.

 

[evertonarntwe]

*shows ignored content

Hello mate, your whole argument would appear to be that black people can't be racist and that the RS players would have had words with Firminio if he'd said something racist, despite me providing an example (on video) of the opposite happening when Suarez racially abused Evra.

You have then proceeded to mock your fellow blues for being supportive of an Everton player who has put a complaint in about being racially abused.

At this point you might as well go all in and put a Firminio t shirt on and start trawling through Holgate's Twitter history to see if there are anymore Tweets he can be criticised for.

In conclusion, you appear to be what I like to call a 'gobshite' and I'm willing to take the ban for calling out a supposed Evertonian that would make me ashamed to be a blue if it weren't for the fact that everyone else on here is ripping your disgusting viewpoint apart as well.

Thanks @Ben Grace

People on here call rip me all they want and they'll look as daft as you when it comes out nothing was said.

Can call who you want a gobshite over a forum mate but you wouldn' say it to anyone' face you melt.

 

[canuckblue]

People on here call rip me all they want and they'll look as daft as you when it comes out nothing was said.

Can call who you want a gobshite over a forum mate but you wouldn' say it to anyone' face you melt.

I'm beginning to think your username has a typo in it....