Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[Osamabindiesel]

The problems I have with police:

1. As riddick said, no accountability. It takes an event like this for a sentence to even be considered which is pathetic and sad. Not every case should be judged the same (there are some obvious witch hunts), but something like this should never be swept under the rug. The rules protecting men in blue from accountability need to be altered a bit.

2. High quantity of sociopathy in the police force. If I’m not mistaken there was a study that looked into professions with the highest quantity of sociopathy and police were on the list. With something so vital in keeping order and peace they need to be monitored psychologically. Most cops aren’t bad, but too many get away with being bad or doing awful things without consequence.

3. They target certain communities. For the longest time they didn’t even try to hide it and then Ferguson came along. You shouldn’t be allowed to bully people or overstep your authority as an officer simply because people live in a certain area. Unacceptable.

 

[LostLegend]

 

[verreauxi]

Happy to talk in another thread about the multiple ways we could address the distressingly high death rate among African American men.

However here it is a) being used as a distraction b) I don’t see how you can effectively address any other crime or social issues unless your have fair arbitration which is clearly not the case in the US. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The correct response to dandydan's post is: alt-right troll pretends to care about non-whites in order to score internet points.

 

[Blue 1]

Gonna be interesting seeing Donny try to outlaw antifa when it quite literally doesn't exist.

2 possibilities:

1: Feds quickly learn it's nearly impossible to designate a political ideology with no centralisation, hierarchy, or membership as terrorists, give up the legal battle but continue virtue signaling.

2: All of Trump's political opponents are now labeled terrorists and arrested. Rioting goes harder.

The man is an utter joke.

 

[TN Toffee]

Then you aren't paying attention. Since you aren't in the States and not an American I'll assume that to be true. There are more than double the rates of cops killing white men than black men.


So a guy with his hands up SHOULD get blasted in the face? People behind a barricade SHOULD be run over? The hell mate, that's some morbid stance there.

We (Americans) have a constitutional right to protest. Shooting people in the face when they are walking home from the market isn't policing. Shooting reporters when they are standing still isn't policing. Shooting people on their porch and not doing anything isn't policing.

I didn’t look up the numbers, but I’m happy to take your word on that figure. However, according to the 2010 census, there are nearly 6x as many white people in the US as there are black. The black community is being VERY disproportionately impacted by this problem.

 

[Kenshin]

I said it the other day but the police not doing themselves any favours. All it takes now is for one of them to go a little too far with another black resident and it be caught on camera. Then this thing blows up even more

 

[LinekersLegs]

I said it the other day but the police not doing themselves any favours. All it takes now is for one of them to go a little too far with another black resident and it be caught on camera. Then this thing blows up even more

Some of them are


Sadly there are also other instances like @LostLegend posted above.

 

[dandydan]

White Policemen didn’t kill them I imagine.....

Some black lives matter more than others.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I didn’t look up the numbers, but I’m happy to take your word on that figure. However, according to the 2010 census, there are nearly 6x as many white people in the US as there are black. The black community is being VERY disproportionately impacted by this problem.

Just been reading an article with the following, whole piece is worth a read.

https://wapo.st/36HtRoU

The answer to the first question is easy. The problems in policing — from militarization to lack of transparency, to misplaced incentives, to the lack of real accountability — certainly do affect everyone, not just black people. According to The Post’s database of fatal police shootings, since 2015 police have shot and killed about twice as many white people as black people.

But while police abuse and violence have the potential to harm anyone, as with virtually all of the other shortcomingsof the criminal justice system, it disproportionately harms black people. Cops may shoot and kill twice as many white people as black, but there about six times as many white people as black people in the United States. Proportionally, black people are much more likely to be shot and killed by cops.

If we look at shooting deaths of unarmed people, cops have shot and killed about the same number of whites and blacks, which means an even wider racial disparity as a percentage of the population. This is probably because when interacting with black people, police officers seem more likely to see innocuous movements — or even efforts to comply with their orders — as threatening. (As I’ve written here before, these “unarmed” figures can also be misleading. They often rely on police reports, which tend to portray events in a light favorable to police. They also imply that the deceased was the aggressor. That isn’t always the case, such as when police mistakenly or illegally break into an innocent person’s home.)

 

[dandydan]

 

[TheBigIguana]

The problems I have with police:

1. As riddick said, no accountability. It takes an event like this for a sentence to even be considered which is pathetic and sad. Not every case should be judged the same (there are some obvious witch hunts), but something like this should never be swept under the rug. The rules protecting men in blue from accountability need to be altered a bit.

2. High quantity of sociopathy in the police force. If I’m not mistaken there was a study that looked into professions with the highest quantity of sociopathy and police were on the list. With something so vital in keeping order and peace they need to be monitored psychologically. Most cops aren’t bad, but too many get away with being bad or doing awful things without consequence.

3. They target certain communities. For the longest time they didn’t even try to hide it and then Ferguson came along. You shouldn’t be allowed to bully people or overstep your authority as an officer simply because people live in a certain area. Unacceptable.

People seem to have a tough time wrapping their heads around #3 and what that does for the relationship between the community being targeted and the cops.

 

[Kenshin]

Some of them are


Sadly there are also other instances like @LostLegend posted above.

That's just an empty gesture right now.

They want justice , not that the police support them. It was one of their own that killed George Floyd , the anger wants justice.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Some black lives matter more than others.

I think you'll find that BLM is interested in combating all of the institutional racism in the US. The police targeting and mistreating black people is one very big section of that but it doesn't mean they don't care about all of the other terrible stuff.

 

[TheBigIguana]

That's just an empty gesture right now.

They want justice , not that the police support them. It was one of their own that killed George Floyd , the anger wants justice.

It isn't empty though if this is the start of actually trying to rebuild the completely destroyed relationship between African-Americans and the police.

 

[LinekersLegs]

That's just an empty gesture right now.

They want justice , not that the police support them. It was one of their own that killed George Floyd , the anger wants justice.

Personally don’t think these gestures are empty, I think they are helpful at de-escalating tensions at an emotional time. However I agree they need to be followed by actions and reform to prevent the injustices happening again.