Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[Ruairi77]

Not really to sure. My I have a few buddies at the military base up there and they said the state is an absolute dumper (Atleast the big cities). Loves the rural sight seeing

only been to Seattle once, last year, and loved it. (went to Portland too, also very cool)
Also, you can tell it's Americas soccer heartland.
The main gripe that I hear from people who live there is the price of property and the lack of control over the growth of Amazon.
As far as I can tell, he's a very good governor.
He did a great job getting control of an early covid out break
and he seems to be doing well with the Capital hill zone stuff. Just letting it run it's course.
I was a fan of his in the Democratic primary.

 

[tsubaki]

It boggles my mind that RATM was just so far ahead of the curve almost 30 years ago ffs.

Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses

TBF the murders later shown in the film Mississippi Burning couldn’t have happened without active engagement from local law enforcement.

 

[trueblue84]

It boggles my mind that RATM was just so far ahead of the curve almost 30 years ago ffs.

Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses

Just a sign that things haven't changed.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Catfish Blues]

I was in a meeting yesterday with three other people who're about the same age as me. Their view was that "All Lives Matter" and things ( on racism ) were much better than they used to be. Trying to argue that the opportunities for black people in society are massively limited compared to the white majority was met with a stony silence.

It's only relatively recently in the office that these people work in that there's a far more representative mix of workers. Twenty years ago, it was predominately a white, male, heterosexual environment, whereas now, there's a good mix of gender, sexual preference and skin tone, so progress has been made, but it seems like old habits die hard with many.

Now, both of the above statements are true, all lives do matter, and the overt racism of my youth ( talking about the "[Poor language removed]" corner shop was commonplace back then ) is barely seen these days, but their attitude does highlight just how much work there is to do, and I'm not sure my generation's attitudes will change. On the plus side, it came out in conversation, that the kids of the people in the meeting are wholeheartedly behind the ideals of BLM, so, hopefully, we'll see real change in years to come.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Not really to sure. My I have a few buddies at the military base up there and they said the state is an absolute dumper (Atleast the big cities). Loves the rural sight seeing

I lived on the East Side of Seattle for 3 years and plan to move back

I've lived in the southeast for 20 years, I've lived in SoCal for a year. I've lived in the Northeast for a decade.

Seattle is fantastic. I miss it nearly daily. It is very much not an American city though, it's much more politically and culturally in line with Canada or Europe. And that makes it very different than most other cities in the US.

Jay Inslee is a great governor for the majority of the people in the state, I happily voted for him and would gladly do so again. I was slightly hopeful when he ran in the Democratic primaries, beyond the fact it was obviously just to move the discussion on climate change.

Washington has about 7 million people in total, and I think 4.5 of those live in Seattle. The rural areas are also some of the prettiest in the nation...but so is Seattle itself, especially when you get a view of Rainier from the sound with the cityscape in view.

 

[LinekersLegs]

A quick question for any of the american contributors here, (or anyone who may know for that matter). If Trump invokes the Insurrection act in order to 'take back' control, say for example of the Free Capitol Hill zone, what impact does that then have on a state governor? Would they automatically be removed from their position?

For all of Trump’s blather very much doubt he will invoke the act, especially for the Seattle zone. The military brass will be extremely resistant to being used in a blatantly political manner to override the state authorities and also very reluctant to do a
armed attack given the very high likelihood of large numbers of civilian casualties.

There was a right wing militia take over of a wildlife refuge a few years ago, Washington authorities now seem to be using much the same playbook.

Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Waco siege seems to have created a rethink of how to handle events

Waco siege - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Shevin Keedy]

For all of Trump’s blather very much doubt he will invoke the act, especially for the Seattle zone. The military brass will be extremely resistant to being used in a blatantly political manner to override the state authorities and also very reluctant to do a
armed attack given the very high likelihood of large numbers of civilian casualties.

There was a right wing militia take over of a wildlife refuge a few years ago, Washington authorities now seem to be using much the same playbook.

Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Waco siege seems to have created a rethink of how to handle events

Waco siege - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

OK but I have been a bit specific, I really mean how would that action affect a state governor overall?

 

[LinekersLegs]

OK but I have been a bit specific, I really mean how would that action affect a state governor overall?

I listened to a really good podcast about it here

I am your podcast of law and order | All the Presidents' Lawyers

Ken White hosts this episode of All The President’s Lawyers.

www.kcrw.com

It is a bit uncharted waters in recent history tbh as when the military have gone in as it has been at the governors request rather than to override them.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I listened to a really good podcast about it here

I am your podcast of law and order | All the Presidents' Lawyers

Ken White hosts this episode of All The President’s Lawyers.

www.kcrw.com

It is a bit uncharted waters in recent history tbh as when the military have gone in as it has been at the governors request rather than to override them.

OK thanks.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Queen Victoria great for the English ruled over one of the most celebrated times in English history absolute tyrant towards Irish people

Queen Victoria was a constitutional monarch and had in reality no real power whatsoever (she was ruler in virtually the same way as Queen Elizabeth is today and Empress of India by virtue of being the British monarch - although the prime minister would meet her on a weekly basis) her prime minister and parliament passed all the laws good or bad, she really had no say and could only talk to them.

She had prime minister's she agreed with and liked and those she didn't like so much, the point is it hardly mattered as she only had power in name only, theoretical not in effect actual, the party in power - Liberals for the most part although some Tories like Disraeli, had the power and their governments passed the laws not her, even though constitutionally she had to sign them to pass them into law.

After her husband Prince Albert died, she spent all her time dressed in black hid away like a recluse in one of her homes in Scotland, she spent half her reign as the missing Queen, Londoners never saw her, she must have had the record period of mourning.

How then is she a tyrant? She acted as a constitutional monarch had to act and no more or less, it's her minister's and governments that passed the laws.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Victoria was responsible for over a million Irish deaths yet is another person celebrated and voted into the top 100 greatest Britons of all time.

This is just plain wrong, she was a constitutional monarch NOT an absolute monarch. Something can be done in her name without her having any say in the matter, her power is constitutional only she had no real say to pass or refuse any law the elected parliament passed.

Know the difference.

 

[Tipp blue]

This is just plain wrong, she was a constitutional monarch NOT an absolute monarch. Something can be done in her name without her having any say in the matter, her power is constitutional only she had no real say to pass or refuse any law the elected parliament passed.

Know the difference.

She donated 2000 pounds, the Turkish government went about sending 10,000 and she intervened and asked them only to send 1000 so they wouldn't be giving more than her, the Turkish agreed but secretly sent 5 ships of aid which the British found out about and attempted to blockade but failed and the aid arrived in Ireland.
Stopping financial aid so it wouldn't show you up is a tyrant move.. there's a reason she's known as the famine queen.

Redirect Notice

www.google.com

 

[verreauxi]

No jokes from these lot, they're deadly serious.

Saying "No jokes from these lot" implies they were funny to begin with, but they are not funny, just idiots. That is one of the laziest and dumbest "analyses" I've seen in awhile. I completely understand why you posted it.

For starters, the Daniel Shaver incident was very well-publicized, so well publicized that the apparently left-biased CNN covered it (see the above video by Hodge-idiots for proof that CNN covered it). Yet these two idiots said, "You didn't hear about it because he's white." In fact, it was highly covered on every major nightly news network: ABC, NBC, CBS, apart from places like CNN. You can do a youtube or google search to find out how well it was covered.

Same goes for the Tony Timpa case; well covered, though not as much as the Shaver murder--yet these idiots said, "Never gonna hear about it, doesn't fit the narrative." But again, it was widely covered, and just to be clear: when some protesters in Dallas were marching/protesting George Floyd's death holding signs up saying Black Lives Matter, they also took into account Tony Timpa. The rally was planned and held by the Next Generation Action network in Dallas, and they were specifically marching against police injustices in Dallas.

And same goes for the murder of Jeremy Mardis where again these idiots say, "You didn't hear about this because the victims are white" all the while--get this--they are boosting footage from NBC Nightly News. It was also covered by all other major national news outlets. It was also covered by every major newspaper across the country. So please explain to me how to reconcile them saying "you didn't hear about it..." with the fact that it was covered by every major news outlet in the USA. I really want to hear your reasoning on this--and don't lapse into the lazy "well, I'm a Brit, so I wasn't aware of this coverage in the USA."

So I'm not exactly sure what the "narrative" these two idiots are trying to convey except lazy, substanceless arguments that miss the point of just about everything...but hey, good to see you're back in your usual form of posting idiotic right-wing talking points while trying to suggest you are "centre-left."

 

[Yank]

Grew up in Houston, went to school in Austin and live in San Antonio (mostly).

I have an aunt and uncle in Austin. I really like it there. Didn't spend enough time in Houston to judge.

San Antonio was ok to me. My mom loved it there and know a lot of people who do. The city reminded me a lot of where I'm from and didn't do much for me. I just figured I'd rather be back where I'm from in NY and all my family and friends are at. I'm sure I'd love it if I had roots there because I love it where I'm at.

Corpus was just a shock. It has the same population as my city, but so spread out. A little over 200,000 but so spread out. That was bad research on my part. My city has 1,000,000 plus in a similar when you include the suburbs. And the general poverty, lack of a night scene, and things to do were a turn off. I lived in downtown Corpus and could walk it all in like 20 minutes.