Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

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So, they burnt down the Wendy’s ......

It's really stupid to burn down Wendy's, not just because I like Wendy's either (when are they going to come to the UK!) but it seems some officers just seem to have nothing going on upstairs. I mean you would surely think, best not to shoot someone running the other way? Really really dumb in the context we are in.
 
It's really stupid to burn down Wendy's, not just because I like Wendy's either (when are they going to come to the UK!) but it seems some officers just seem to have nothing going on upstairs. I mean you would surely think, best not to shoot someone running the other way? Really really dumb in the context we are in.

Apparently he pointed the taser he had just stolen from police at one of the officers.
 
Apparently he pointed the taser he had just stolen from police at one of the officers.

Ah ok. Was he running away when they shot him?

I mean I'm not saying don't arrest the guy, don't use force, don't prosecute.But in this context, shooting someone, without a gun, who is running away seems like a massive tactical mistake at this point.

I'd add, this is probably the issue as well. I mean it will be framed, understandably as a racist act that fits into the context of longer term structural oppression. However it may just be officers who are simply not prepared to break with bad habits. If I'm a police chief, I understand policing by consent is essential, we need to start building bridges and this act is a gross misjudgement from the officer so he would be suspended without pay almost immediately. I do wonder if that competency line is being hammered home enough in American police forces?
 
TBF the murders later shown in the film Mississippi Burning couldn’t have happened without active engagement from local law enforcement.

And the entire system of Jim Crow was upheld by the tacit understanding that you would be hanged from a tree by a mob if you questioned your place in it. And that law enforcement would look the other way.
 
Going back to civil rights era ...George Wallace governor of Alabama was not removed from office when JFK sent in troops

Wallace was bonkers. The worst thing about him was that he didn't really believe all the racist bilge he spouted... he did it all for the votes.
 
Ah ok. Was he running away when they shot him?

I mean I'm not saying don't arrest the guy, don't use force, don't prosecute.But in this context, shooting someone, without a gun, who is running away seems like a massive tactical mistake at this point.

I'd add, this is probably the issue as well. I mean it will be framed, understandably as a racist act that fits into the context of longer term structural oppression. However it may just be officers who are simply not prepared to break with bad habits. If I'm a police chief, I understand policing by consent is essential, we need to start building bridges and this act is a gross misjudgement from the officer so he would be suspended without pay almost immediately. I do wonder if that competency line is being hammered home enough in American police forces?

I don’t know as it’s hard to tell from the video, because he goes out of the frame.

Main point being I’m not sure it’s appropriate to decry more police officers as racist murderers without a proper investigation because it fits the narrative some people want to tell.

Clearly if he was shot in the back it’s a different story, but I saw a report that he turned and pointed the taser at the officers.
 
But the police are always telling us that tazers are non-lethal. That's why they dont have to write up using them.

Im not sure on the law as I’m not a lawyer, but I would assume pointing a stolen taser at a police officer would be argued as an example of lethal force being justified. Say he pulls the trigger and one of the officers is stunned, that’s a life threatening situation.

However he could have been shot in the back, we don’t know as the video doesn’t show it.
 
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