Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[RAFUH]

When a NASCAR dude named Bubba comes out like this...stuff is getting serious

 

[Jebus_lives]

The trading of slaves throughout the empire was outlawed in 1807 with owners forced to free their existing slaves through the Abolition Act in 1833.

From memory, and if you disagree I'll go look it up because I'm not 100% certain the slavery act of 1800 outlawed the use of mainland british ports to transport slaves as well as recognising forms of bonded labour that were present (but not overwhelmingly so) in the Scottish coal mining industry as slavery and outlawing them.

If we are talking slavery as in owning people as chattel it has been illegal in English common law since the Normans and that ruling was upheld by numerous court rulings throughout that period (including freeing of slaves owned by British citizens as soon as they set foot on English soil) until the 1775 decision in favour of the aforementioned mine owners. That, and the erosion of the common laws was what moved Wilberforce and others to codify what was already accepted law.

I'm not sure it was as clear cut as 'illegal'. The Common Law related to slavery in the UK was patchy. It seemed to be at odds with itself over 'human rights' vs property. As a practice slavery had died out, but as you point out became a wider issue with colonisation and the law hadn't made it illegal, it was, as with much law where it is not in statute - inconsistent.

Here is a good summary of the development:

Common Law

No statutes codifying modern slavery were ever passed in England. The only forced labor recognized in English law was feudal villeinage , which had died out by the seventeenth century. Confusion...

www.mirandakaufmann.com

I'm not aware of a specific 1800 Slavery Act in the UK.

 

[Death]

They really have an ‘us v them’ mentality.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

That, and the erosion of the common laws was what moved Wilberforce and others to codify what was already accepted law.

Apparently, an ancestor of mine. I like to think of him looking down from above, nodding his head in approval as I scour Twitter for ridiculous quotes from Newcastle fans.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

The mad part about that statue is that he died in 1719 and yet that statue wasn’t erected until 1895, go figure.

The blokes company had 19,000 slaves lobbed in the sea mate, and he branded his slaves on the chest with the company initials. That statue had no place in a U.K. major city in 2020.

Agreed.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I'm not sure it was as clear cut as 'illegal'. The Common Law related to slavery in the UK was patchy. It seemed to be at odds with itself over 'human rights' vs property. As a practice slavery had died out, but as you point out became a wider issue with colonisation and the law hadn't made it illegal, it was, as with much law where it is not in statute - inconsistent.

Here is a good summary of the development:

Common Law

No statutes codifying modern slavery were ever passed in England. The only forced labor recognized in English law was feudal villeinage , which had died out by the seventeenth century. Confusion...

www.mirandakaufmann.com

I'm not aware of a specific 1800 Slavery Act in the UK.

There isn't, the Acts of Union passed in 1800 and brought together a whole bunch of MP's who supported the abolition of the slave trade, it laid the foundations for the Slave Trade Act 1807 which led to the Abolition Act of 1833.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Apparently, an ancestor of mine. I like to think of him looking down from above, nodding his head in approval as I scour Twitter for ridiculous quotes from Newcastle fans.

Both of you doing the Lord's work.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

There isn't, the Acts of Union passed in 1800 and brought together a whole bunch of MP's who supported the abolition of the slave trade, it laid the foundations for the Slave Trade Act 1807 which led to the Abolition Act of 1833.

As I said, I was talking from memory and (as always) stand to be corrected.

Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Tipp blue]

What utter gash that is. It was you who brought up Muhammad as whataboutery, and then instead of just admitting you were wrong, you kept digging.

Your original post was just yet another embarrassing attempt to decry the tearing down of a statue of a slave trader, by putting forward a paper thin argument about others. Anyone who has an issue with that statue being binned, can get in one for me.

My main point is, that some people can do good for a certain area like colison did in Bristol and for the people of Bristol but was horrible to other people, same goes for queen Victoria great for the English ruled over one of the most celebrated times in English history absolute tyrant towards Irish people, there's loads British heros throughout history that have their statues up all around the country from Churchill to Nelson, Cromwell to Drake all of whom did great things for England but we're absolute fu$k heads to other people around the world, nobody is calling for these statues to be removed infact all 4 that I mentioned have been voted into the top 100 greatest Britons of all time, Victoria was responsible for over a million Irish deaths yet is another person celebrated and voted into the top 100 greatest Britons of all time. If you want to solve the issues of today then looking at the past is not the way to do it, tearing down statues is not going to achieve anything.

 

[verreauxi]

This is from the protests to open up the pandemic lock down. Look at even the difference in how the police are dressed for this.

If you open up the Trump-supporter's playbook, there is only one word, spelled phonetically since many of them can't read: Hipock-roh-see

 

[tsubaki]

TBF I'd be surprised if that case goes any further, certainly if he got convicted - both of the things he does in that bit (shoving the big lad with his baton and hitting that lad) do have just in that clip some things to justify why he might of done it (that one of his colleagues (the black cop) was trying to arrest someone that the two lads were trying to interfere with).

Why the cops were there with their bikes is a completely less understandable thing however.

 

[Jebus_lives]

There isn't, the Acts of Union passed in 1800 and brought together a whole bunch of MP's who supported the abolition of the slave trade, it laid the foundations for the Slave Trade Act 1807 which led to the Abolition Act of 1833.

I expected a specific law enacted within a colony or something 'unrelated' to slavery but having implications for ownership or attempt to regulate.

 

[carlos21]

They really have an ‘us v them’ mentality.

When is his funeral.

 

[Death]

When is his funeral.

It already happened Carlito

 

[Death]

Very good John Oliver about the protests. Rips joe Biden to shreds about it aswell. Good on him, most are afraid of thier bollox to do it.