the sniderman
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buddy i have a question for u. have u and maybe a likeminded friend every pondered the question “ are we the baddies? “ at any point??
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Always the ones you least suspect
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Virginia man who plowed his truck into Black Lives Matter crowd is the head of the state's Ku Klux Klan
Over the weekend, a Virginia man was arrested for driving his truck into a crowd of protesters. It has now been revealed that the accused, Harry H. Rogers, is also the head of the Virginia chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.WTVR News reported Monday that Rogers was charged by police with attempted...
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Sorry mate but this is a ridiculous rewrite of history. Slavery was socially acceptable for a very long time. You'll be able to find isolated examples of advocates throughout history but the overwhelming majority either turned a blind eye or simply didn't care. The rich simply got richer from them as a commodity.
Even the Valladolid debate you mention was 16th century and effectively the first time the notion had ever been discussed. It was the 19th century when it was abolished in England. The landscape changed gradually, but let's not pretend it was anything less than unaminous public opinion that black people were basically animals to be treated as property for hundreds of years.
In Edward Colston's era, the 17th century, his trade was seen as completely normal by society at large. That's an indisputable fact. It was very much "the done thing".
Sorry mate but this is a ridiculous rewrite of history. Slavery was socially acceptable for a very long time. You'll be able to find isolated examples of advocates throughout history but the overwhelming majority either turned a blind eye or simply didn't care. The rich simply got richer from them as a commodity.
Even the Valladolid debate you mention was 16th century and effectively the first time the notion had ever been discussed. It was the 19th century when it was abolished in England. The landscape changed gradually, but let's not pretend it was anything less than unaminous public opinion that black people were basically animals to be treated as property for hundreds of years.
In Edward Colston's era, the 17th century, his trade was seen as completely normal by society at large. That's an indisputable fact. It was very much "the done thing".
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Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
Yea once... we came to the conclusion that if you want to see one symbol of slavery demolished then you should want to see all symbols of it demolished or else you are a hypocrite who's happy to shovel manure about what's currently the hot topic.
Disgruntledgoat
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Slavery has been illegal in mainland Britain since the 12th century. In the colonies, you are correct, it persisted until the early 19th century.
the sniderman
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or u can be this thing called “ reasonable “ buddy where you choose appropriate measures rather than all or nothings. i dare say there may be a reason this section of the forum is mocking u but thankfully i am not that type.
This is from the protests to open up the pandemic lock down. Look at even the difference in how the police are dressed for this.
roydo
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So why was it abolished in 1800, ish?
tsubaki
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In the colonies. Before the abolition it had been proved (in Somersett's Case) that it had no legal basis whatsoever in the UK.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
They can mock away, I was wrong on 1 part of my argument that I've been called out on and fair enough, my point still stands you can't hold people from the past accountable for their actions using today's standards, if that were the case pretty much every British King or Queen should have their statues/monuments taken down. There could be something that we all do today and take for granted that will be looked at in horror in 200 years time... all history good and bad needs to be preserved, Colston did alot of good for the city of Bristol yes he was also involved in other not so good activities.. take Queen Victoria did lots of good for England you'd be hard pressed to find an English person who would criticise her too much, ask an Irish person and it's a totally different story, the famine queen ruled Ireland at a time when a million + people starved to death and she had the navy intercept aid destined for Ireland and the crown was actively taking what food was grown in Ireland to feed English people, would some Irish people taking a trip to England under an Irish lives matter banner to pull down statues of Victoria be given the same applause?
roydo
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Thats still 500 years later. But whatever. It is a bit Tomato Tomato.
Slavery Abolition Act 1833 made slavery illegal across the British Empire. Slave trade was abolished in 1807. Not sure about the 12th century.
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