The British Empire was built on racism and subjugation.
You are kidding yourself to think that it’s legacy is gone.
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You are kidding yourself to think that it’s legacy is gone.
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The first community this article mentions is Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. The piece fails to mention that Coeur d’Alene area was long the organizational HQ for Aryan Nations, a major white supremacist/antisemitic organization. The Pacific Northwest, which is usually characterized as the home of Portland hipsters and Seattle techies, has always been full of racist nutbars.
Rightwing vigilantes on armed patrol after fake rumours of antifa threat
Groups of men patrolling streets in parts of western US despite FBI saying no evidence of antifa involvement in violence linked to protestswww.theguardian.com
Wow, I had never heard about that. Pretty amazed I haven't to be honest given how horrific it is.
Wow, never knew about that either - it certainly isn’t a “my quote was misunderstood and/or taken out of context” situation.
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Bowie and Elvis Costello both had moments similar that got media attention at the time. If any of them said what they said in these time’s they would be finished.
Sean Monterrosa: Vallejo police under investigation after killing of unarmed man
California justice department launches ‘review and reform agreement’ days after officer shot 22-year-old
The state’s attorney general, Xavier Becerra, announced a “review and reform agreement” with the troubled police agency on Friday, three days after an officer fatally shot Sean Monterrosa, who police say was on his knees with his hands up when he was killed.
Police in the Bay Area city were responding to a call of alleged looting on Monday evening when they found the 22-year-old outside a Walgreens store. An officer in an unmarked vehicle fired five bullets at him through his windshield. The police chief claimed the officer believed Monterrosa had a gun, but he only had a hammer in his pocket, the chief said.
The Bay Area News Group identified the officer as Jarrett Tonn and reported that this was the fourth time in five years that he has fired his gun at a person on duty, including two shootings within a six-week period in 2017. Those previous shootings were not fatal, according to the paper. The officer and his lawyer could not immediately be reached, but the police union defended his actions, saying “he had no other reasonable option” and was “protecting himself and fellow officers”.
Here's a couple.
Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings
Officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings
There is widespread concern about racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings and that these disparities reflect discrimination by White officers. Existing databases of fatal shootings lack information about officers, and past analytic approaches have made it difficult to assess the...www.pnas.org
We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. Instead, race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings.
Do White Law Enforcement Officers Target Minority Suspects?
They find that although minority suspects are disproportionately killed by police, white officers appear to be no more likely to use lethal force against minorities than nonwhite officers .
You provided me with two papers to read. The first paper is pretty flawed, as even in the preprint stage the authors committed the prosecutor's fallace, mistaking Pr (X|Y) for Pr (Y|X). This was also pointed out in the follow-up critique by Knox and Mummulo, who showed that the paper you have provided me with was "mathematically incapble of supporting its central claims." See here: https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/117/3/1261.full.pdf
Another follow-up critique of this same paper that you provided me with also questioned their results. In fact, they questioned their analysis so much they suggest it should be retracted.
See here: https://replicationindex.com/2019/0...-there-is-no-racial-bias-in-police-shootings/
Also see: here: https://www.pnas.org/content/117/3/...KOvLdhZHYVhJ0614a7xs_WkjhEPfEcf51vfi8rbI4ksAn
Two more issues with this paper: 1) they only look at shootings whereas as several high-profile police-murders involved choking and/or other deadly but non-shooting fatalities (Eric Garner, George Floyd); and 2) this paper was likely not peer-reviewed; it was a direct submission edited by Kenneth Wachter (a demographer), who appeared not to send it out to review, since the prosecutor's fallacy was not corrected and they don't thank any anonymous reviewers in the acknowledgements as is standard practice. This is a problem with PNAS articles in general, the editor (an academy member) may or may not choose to send it out to review. I strongly suspect the latter.
Your second paper appears to support what everyone on this thread has been saying: there is a systematic killing of non-whites by police. This paper also shows that--to quote you "minority suspects are disproportionately killed by police". As black people form a a large component of "minorities" in the USA, I guess you agree there is a systematic problem with police killing black people and perhaps even by extension that black lives matter?
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I hadn't heard of the Bowie one--but just googled it: wowzers! I do remember seeing the interview on MTV where he asked about why they don't play black artists, which seemed pretty "woke" at the time.
Verrauxi, on behalf of the forum, may I just thank you for actually reading the Google-vomit of posters who probably haven't read the articles they're sharing themselves. I can never take a poster who uses terms like "radical leftist" and "SJW" seriously enough to read them myself
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Clapton's explanation, for what its worth, was that he was off his tits all the time and reading some rather rum literature.
That's not to defend him, incidentally.
Not sure if this has been posted, but blew my mind reading it this morning. After the female police officer was thrown off her horse after hitting a lamp post a Guardian writer posted these tweets:
The mind boggles. Unsurprisingly she’s now deleted the original tweet, I believe the police officer has broken ribs and a punctured lung.
There was me thinking it’s the left who are the compassionate ones.
The mind boggles. Unsurprisingly she’s now deleted the original tweet, I believe the police officer has broken ribs and a punctured lung.
There was me thinking it’s the left who are the compassionate ones.
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Race report statistics | Equality and Human Rights Commission
Race report: Healing a divided nation. Equality and Human Rights Commission report on the need for a comprehensive race equality strategy.www.equalityhumanrights.com
Unemployment rates were significantly higher for ethnic minorities at 12.9 per cent compared with 6.3 per cent for White people
Black workers with degrees earn 23.1 per cent less on average than White workers
in Britain, significantly lower percentages of ethnic minorities (8.8 per cent) worked as managers, directors and senior officials, compared with White people (10.7 per cent) and this was particularly true for African or Caribbean or Black people (5.7 per cent) and those of mixed ethnicity (7.2 per cent)
Black people who leave school with A-levels typically get paid 14.3 per cent less than their White peers
Pakistani or Bangladeshi and Black adults are more likely to live in substandard accommodation than White people
30.9 per cent of Pakistani or Bangladeshi people live in overcrowded accommodation, while for Black people the figure is 26.8 per cent and for White people it is 8.3 per cent
if you are an ethnic minority person, you are still more likely to live in poverty.
evidence shows that 35.7 per cent of ethnic minorities were more likely to live in poverty compared with 17.2 per cent of White people
Just a few stats.
and what do those stats tell you? Pakistani & Bangladeshi people tend to have far larger families. With that comes crowded houses and less money.
None of your post proves racism at all. All easily explained by larger families.
Now if you can prove black people get paid LESS than white people for the same jobs then fair enough.
My own view is that there isn't really a racism issue as a whole in the uk, i think there is certainly a clash of cultures between whites and Muslims in certain areas of the country, but it's not only White people who have that issue
Apart from the sweeping generalisation in your first paragraph, can you explain the disparities between the other stats?
‘Now if you can prove that black people get paid less for the same job’.
They have to actually get the job in the first place.
The pay gap exists because white people are more likely to be in higher paid jobs. They will have a higher representation on boards (relative to population demographics etc).
Do I think that overt racism is as big a problem in the U.K. than the US? Probably not.
Do I think institutional racism is a problem? Yes. The stats back it up.
Reading the history and experience of people of colour who have written about their own and others experience of racism. Actually listening to what they are saying and what their experience is tells me that it does exist.
It’s more difficult to see if you are white. But it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
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I am 37 years old and can honestly say i have never seen racism in regards to work. Skin colour would not be a factor in whether someone gets the job.
Again, maybe it's not a race issue? Maybe White people tend to be more greed driven and ambitious where black people come from more of a family driven background and don't chase the high stress, less family hours roles?
Not everything in life is down to racism
sweeping generalisation??? it's completely true! They do tend to have bigger families. Is it wrong to say that? Jesus christ
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