FYI: Talksport Everton Special

[Brennan]

Definitely a right midfielder and not a right back... he's like the opposite of Hibbert - which is great for attacking play but does leave us exposed at the back.

Call me old fashioned but I prefer defenders to be able to defend before attack.

I rate him as a right mid, just not as a defender....... like the blue, better version of kopite Johnson... yeah - I did just say that.

Nonsense.

 

[Bungle]

Nonsense.

Bit dismissive that mate, please quantify your reasons, use graphs and pie charts if you please.

 

[By god I'm blue]

Aston Villa sold for £63m with a fully modernised 40k stadium in 2007
Newcastle United were for sale for £100m in 2009 with a 50k fully modernised stadium

Everton are for sale for £125m and they blame the lack of sale on an unmodernised stadium.

Hmmm

Talk about clarifying things! I see you have made this easy for us all

 

[Steve Wigan]

Steve once attempted to rationalise Kenwright's penchant for promising money that never materialises by referring us to the great man's stage production of Miss Saigon. He explained how towards the end of the show an actual working helicopter doesn't descend onto the stage, and so the audience must suspend disbelief in order to enjoy it. I believe the point of the story was that in Kenwright's mind - one which is apparently incapable of differentiating between fantasy and reality - the Fortress Sports Fund/Kings Dock money/effectively free world-class stadium could all be there if we'd all just wish upon a star.

It was far and away the funniest thing I've ever seen written on Blue Kipper. I hope for his sake he's a paid employee of Everton Football Club or a fabulous internet troll, because I'd hate to think he's as crazy as his posts suggest.

Show me the post? Miss Saigon wasn't a Bill Kenwright production.
Mind you...Grimms Fairy Tales and Jackanory are definitely Carlito productions.

 

[njligernj]

According to Wikopedia the Jain Group 'currently own Everton, being the major shareholders'.

I could make myself the owner of Everton on Wiki and it might stick for a while.

Funny thing is it appears that revision was made on the 28th June 2012 and nobody has removed it since (low traffic page though I'm sure).

I didn't remove it either ... I'm going to print it out and put it up on my dream board!

 

[Baines' left foot]

Bit dismissive that mate, please quantify your reasons, use graphs and pie charts if you please.

Here you go mate:

 

[Steve Wigan]

I think where he is stuck is existing covenants on debts, length of mortgages, cost of buying out contracts on almost every single aspect of the business.
He did all these to retain control of his train set and I think at the moment he is stuck. Possibly wants shut but for him to pay back what he owes and for new owners to be free to manage the business their way would take dealing with the problems of existing contracts, perhaps.
Basically Bill playing arrogant hard ball in the past has bitten him right on the arse now

Also, selling a dream to the Greggs and Earl and then the dream not materialising has landed him deep in the dirt.

 

[Dell Boy]

They headed a consortium that appeared to be a part of a much bigger plan for redevelopment, there were a lot of different companies that specialised in different aspects of infrastructure from pipe laying, construction, telecommunications etc.

Everything you needed for a massive, and I mean massive, redevelopment of an area was involved.

There were conflicting reports at the time that the redevelopment was driving the interest and the club was an afterthought, or that the club was the primary interest that expanded into redeveloping the whole area.

Judging by local interests I would personally say the club was looked at first and the redevelopment followed, but enough to have global financiers involved to fund the entire thing.

Jain group sent all their top bods to at least two of the meetings, nice people, very pleasant.

Can you say when this Jain Group interest was?

Its only that I assume it must be pre-2009. Since then there is now way there's money to be made from such a wide-redevelopment of a poor city like Liverpool. There is zero commercial interest and the government has long since stopped handing out big regeneration cheques.

Outside the West End and the City of London you can pretty much buy anything you want for a fraction of what it was before the recession.

If these guys had money to focus on a development project then they'd do what the Chinese, Malaysians and the Middle East investment boards are doing and focus on picking up trophy projects in London, Paris etc and making a killing with next to no risk.

 

[Dell Boy]

To just add to the post above before I get ****ged off. I love the city and you couldn't find a prouder man of his heritage. I'm just saying - in business terms - nobody in their right mind would see money to be made from a big regeneration project.
If they did why bother with Everton when you could pick up any part of the city centre, Docks, Peel Holdings' new waterfront project for a fraction of its paper valuation? Same too for any part of regional Uk and it goes without saying anything at all in Ireland.

 

[kenada_blue]

Aston Villa sold for £63m with a fully modernised 40k stadium in 2007
Newcastle United were for sale for £100m in 2009 with a 50k fully modernised stadium

Everton are for sale for £125m and they blame the lack of sale on an unmodernised stadium.

Hmmm

In a nutshell.

Just at the basic level, its ridiculous.

 

[EFC Si]

no read the thread and just listened to it; why did it take collymore 5 minutes to get all these answers that everyone else has been asking the questions to for years? Fairplay to him like, thought it was a fantastic show.

 

[Moomin]

Can you say when this Jain Group interest was?

Its only that I assume it must be pre-2009. Since then there is now way there's money to be made from such a wide-redevelopment of a poor city like Liverpool. There is zero commercial interest and the government has long since stopped handing out big regeneration cheques.

Outside the West End and the City of London you can pretty much buy anything you want for a fraction of what it was before the recession.

If these guys had money to focus on a development project then they'd do what the Chinese, Malaysians and the Middle East investment boards are doing and focus on picking up trophy projects in London, Paris etc and making a killing with next to no risk.

2011 according to Talksport.

 

[Carlito]

Show me the post? Miss Saigon wasn't a Bill Kenwright production.
Mind you...Grimms Fairy Tales and Jackanory are definitely Carlito productions.

As I said, it was over on pre-meltdown Blue Kipper.

You're a very funny man, Steve.

 

[NewRadical]

I'll throw in the Jain group, should I wish to I could list each and every company that was involved including the finance houses that were on board.

I'll also add a definite Chinese consortium that met EFC including Moyes, which would display it wasn't a first meeting, the year before.
Not arsed who wants to call me out on this but, decent proactive blues know I haven't given them dud info.

I remember you from the old icliverpool Everton boards, you should post here more often, I've never known you to deliberately swerve anyone. Your word is good by me. b)

 

[NewRadical]

I think they're mostly run by indians mate

I believe they prefer the term 'Native Americans'.