magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
Again iirc, it was extended land deal at premium (ie vastly reduced) cost for extended leisure/retail
Just imagine Planet Hollywood in Kirkby, with no offence to Kirkby of course
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Again iirc, it was extended land deal at premium (ie vastly reduced) cost for extended leisure/retail
Just imagine Planet Hollywood in Kirkby, with no offence to Kirkby of course
It's ****e like this that makes me wonder if there is ANYONE employed by or part owners of Everton that has Everton's best interests at heart.
magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
IMHO if it hadn't have been for keioc there would be no recognisable Everton fc now, every single thing that makes up the fabric and identity of the club has beeb whored out or stripped.
My old man had a saying which I reckon should be held in mind when talking about Kenwright, 'show me who your friends are and I'll show you who you are'.
Maybe not the greatest saying in the history of life but it fits the parasitic leech like a glove.
Should the question be asked to the so called "prospective purchasers" as to why they backed out. Maybe then we get nearer the truth.
NewRadical
Player Valuation: £30m
I think prospective buyers have to sign a contract forbidding them to speak of the discussions.
Azza
Player Valuation: £80m
They'll be made to sign the most legally complex NDA that's possible.
Bluenose93
Player Valuation: £50k
Even though he is an ex liverpool player, he certainly helped us last night and proved that not all kopites are bad (Only about 3)
Greg O'Keeffe not been seen on his twitter account for the first time in probably two years. I wonder why?
David Prentice hasn't been on twitter today either, his last tweet was
David Prentice@prenno
@coldi7 What have you heard tonight that you haven't read before? Keith Harris said Ball Park figure was 150m in Nov. 2011
Maybe the club threatening to ban them if they say something wrong. Hasn't Prentice been banned from Finch Farm before for writing something the club didnt like?
didnt the actors in bills show go on strike over pay.
Dell Boy
Player Valuation: £35m
Look I'm not the enemy here but this is my day job. If you seriously think Peel are about to advance a £20+ billion project any time soon you're making yourself look very daft.
Getting planning consent is one thing - but there is no demand for anything they might want to build. There is next to no speculative development anywhere in Europe (outside central London and core capital cities elsewhere) let alone Liverpool.
Peel don't have £billions to flash around! Nobody out there has cash. The banks won't lend.
To give you an idea of how much cash is king in today's development world:
M4 corridor business park. Almost fully let with decent companies. Planning permission in palce for a huge extension. Before the recession it was bought by an investment fund for £170m. That deal had equity of just £15m and the rest was debt. The market value of that project now is about £100m. Original owner long since gone bust. Bank back in charge and keen to market it to all in sundry. No takers. If one of my investors can find £6.5m cash that same bank that got stiffed on the last loan will sell it on and provide the wrap around finance - just to get it off their books. And this one is only above water because it has existing tenants and money coming in the door.
Honestly there is no demand for any serious development in Liverpool at the minute. If there were then projects would be coming forward.
I'm travelling at the minute or I could link to a load of sites/buildings in Liverpool that can be picked up for less than the price of the bricks!
This Thain company might well have been in teh mix (I've no reason to say you're not telling the truth) but they would have had a very different agenda than the one you're saying.
I'm all for debating if this supposed £125m price tag is too much or not but anyone wanting to buy Everton are in it for their global sports/PR/personal ego agenda only nothing else.
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kenada_blue
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And its been up to the board to sell the ideal of the club to these global sports/pr/personal ego clients thinking they'll make millions/boost their ego from Everton. They can't even do that.
Instead they're expecting a goodie two shoes owner worth his salt to pony up 125mill.
It's not happened in 11 years. 24/7 searches.
Dell Boy
Player Valuation: £35m
Absolute rubbish. NDAs are effectively worthless. I've said it all before on the Board thread but this exchange just summarises the way a pile of crap can get a hold on the internet.
A NDA is designed to protect the confidential information that company A would offer up to company B during the course of a merger/takeover or other business deal.
Leave aside for the moment the practical difficulties of actually proving who at company B gave out the confidential info (and all their advisers and secretaries etc etc) but how could company A claim rights over company B's intention to put out a press release that it had looked at buying Everton but pulled out after due diligence?
The other matter is that to sue following a NDA breach - you have to be able to show that the company (i.e. Everton) had suffered a loss. No loss = no claim.
So suppose Apex Inc. a US global sports fund had picked up Bill's prospectus in the post and decided to follow it through. After a few weeks of working on the project Apex and its lawyers, accountants, operations team, football advisers, media advisers and development advisers pull out as they just can't see a way to justify that £125m price tag.
Don't you think it would be possible that one of that merry group would actually see some benefit in getting out the story that Apex and its advisers were serious about buying Everton, had the funds waiting, but pulled out respectfully after extensive due diligence?
How would Everton hope to pin down who leaked it?
On what grounds would that statement contain any confidential info covered by a NDA anyway?
What loss could Everton claim they had suffered as a result of that statement?
And that's just to go down the route that this Apex company or its advisers just wanted the reflected glow of the world knowing they'd been in for a big deal. There is an alternative that Apex feel strongly that their £90m bid say is more than enough and they feel they could really do a job at Everton (and make a load of money down the line). Surely that'd be even more incentive to leak a bit of news to the press.
Where could Bill turn faced with that headline that a serious party wanted to come in and let him triple/quadruple his original investment?
To me the fact that those stories have not come out smacks that there haven't been any serious parties at the table.
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magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
Not exactly sure what you're getting at here, but a nice display of pissing up high against the wall, I'm happy for you, really am, but don't confuse me with some interwebs bell, please, I've given you no justification to go down this route.
Azza
Player Valuation: £80m
I know how NDA's work, I'm not saying that it would be impossible for their to be a leak of information, otherwise how do people like sheeds and MJ get told stuff. All I meant was going directly to 'x' company would probably be fruitless and 'x' company coming out and saying they inquired but didn't go through with it because of what ever reason(s), and those reason(s) would probably be damming of the club. Which would hinder any possible future interest, which EFC wouldn't want.
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