FYI: Talksport Everton Special

[By god I'm blue]

I'd love to have a look at the "glossy perspectus", I wonder how you get hold of one.
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They only actually exist in Bill's warped mind mate, they aren't real.

 

[Steve Wigan]

You think a dictator will allow himself to be made a fool of twice? I am sure that his advisors took one look at that interview and told him to get back to the cellar and keep to media friendly sound bites.

What your answer above tells me, is that you are genuinely bitter that somebody outed Bill as a blagger, it's almost like sneering at the BU as they never got another interview. Thank you for the confirmation of what I always thought.

Ignoring the literary slapstick.....Do you think that the Blue Union would have better served Everton by endeavouring to open up a continuing dialogue with the club rather than indulge in feeble point scoring?
This may have endeared them to a minority but judging by many of the posts on various forums a great majority of Evertonians think that the BU wasted a great opportunity. Stan Collymore, despite his inexperience, has got a few facts out into the open and has rekindled a serious debate about Everton...something the BU failed to do with their shortsighted, verbally abusive, name calling agenda. When the BU first appeared they deserved the encouragement they got, but their attitude to the meeting with BK showed that they either had a desstructive agenda , or was based on bad advice.

 

[Steve Wigan]

I refer to how much was it sold for? Not why was it sold.

Yep, I know you did, I was actually responding to the post above yours, were the guy said we could buy it back 'at any time', which isn't true.

 

[ART]

More protests are needed before games a boycott of season ticket sales until The Everton board come clean about whats going on and not just giving us the rantings of Billy Liar about 24-7 looking for investment.Even Moyes must know that his time is up,he should come out now and say he,s signing or he will not sign.

 

[Dell Boy]

It can't be bought back 'any time' There is an opportunity every(I think) five years to buy back on preferential terms. QUOTE]

Apologies yes that's correct technically. In the real world, given the current owner has been trying to sell for ages, it could be bought back at any time.

 

[sheeds]

More protests are needed before games a boycott of season ticket sales until The Everton board come clean about whats going on and not just giving us the rantings of Billy Liar about 24-7 looking for investment.Even Moyes must know that his time is up,he should come out now and say he,s signing or he will not sign.

Do you know what though mate if wont happen , if we beat city it'll all be forgotten well not all but certainly some of it . This last few days has been a perfect storm and there is a little pressure . I suspect if moyes goes things might happen but probably not , unlike a lot posters i actually think bill would be happy to move on but obviously only at the right (wrong ) price . I also think will apathy growing amongst the fans, with his protector in chief and possible saviour halfway our the door, a new tv deal imminent and big decisions needing to be made this could be the time we see a change . I'm Probably kidding myself though , I've got form for it .

I seem to find myself typing "this will be a big few months " every year since the fourth place finish but it never really is , what's staggering is we've actually had a host of real chances to progress but we've missed everyone . Sadly I don't think this will go on forever .

Apologies yes that's correct technically. In the real world, given the current owner has been trying to sell for ages, it could be bought back at any time.

Is the current owner trying to sell it ? It seems to be a fairly easy and regular income at odds with the money they could gain on the lump sum if he cashed in .

 

[The Hibbert Agenda]

More protests are needed before games a boycott of season ticket sales until The Everton board come clean about whats going on and not just giving us the rantings of Billy Liar about 24-7 looking for investment.Even Moyes must know that his time is up,he should come out now and say he,s signing or he will not sign.

I think people must be careful before organizing protests and boycotts

I don't think there's a massive conspiracy in place
I think the board has just been absolutely incompetent (and dishonest)

What I want to see is the club move onto bigger and better things. New owners. New stadium.
What I don't want to see is the club reach such Blackburn-esque dramatic levels that BK decides to duck and dive and avoid any more abuse.
Let's be honest, our situation is absolutely sh*te, but let's not force Kenwright out only to have some Venky/Fernandes idiot take his place. I can't help but feel that Everton will attract a lot of potentially rubbish owners and very few legitimate sustainable club-builders.
The board must hear the fans' frustrations- address them immediately- and keep them updated regularly

 

[Moomin]

We have had quite a few false dawns in the past, I'm not getting excited over this middle east interest.

But, if we remember the leaked emails from Ross, the price I think was 125 million? Could be wrong and can't be bothered to check ( studying Cheltenham form )

With the new TV deal, and that valuation from 2 years ago remaining the same it may reignite old interest ( Jain Group )

I'm just speculating here.

 

[The Hibbert Agenda]

I also just realise that what I wrote seems (and likely is) a bit cowardly.
I want to scream and shout that we deserve better, and we do, and maybe its just time to take the jump, for better or for worse, because continuing where we have been for the past 13 years will do us no good.
But its still a bit scary. I'd really hate to slip back to rubbish.

 

[BoysInBlue]

The continued silence from the local media, after last nights revelations, is deafening.

Been zero coverage at all of the £125m sale figure, or even that the club/LCC still support a groundshare.

 

[magicjuan]

I certainly don't think Steve is a club staffer he just has perhaps different opinions to some of us and I think he perhaps looks beyond the obvious sometimes .

On the club being for sale I posted the name 'Jain group' before it hit the media , I have no inside knowledge at everton but i do know that around the BU time the club approached very people who work in football to recruit or at least look for investment . This is exactly what happened at Blackburn who used SEM/Kentaro to find investors. Interestingly the financiers who brought possible investors had approached the club months before but "couldn't get through the door " . I post that but i can't post as fact other interested groups but there have been I'm confident of that .

People can dismiss that as Internet fantasy or kenwright propaganda but it happened and it fell through like so many other interested parties and I think most of us suspect the reasons .

I'll throw in the Jain group, should I wish to I could list each and every company that was involved including the finance houses that were on board.

I'll also add a definite Chinese consortium that met EFC including Moyes, which would display it wasn't a first meeting, the year before.
Not arsed who wants to call me out on this but, decent proactive blues know I haven't given them dud info.

 

[sheeds]

I'll throw in the Jain group, should I wish to I could list each and every company that was involved including the finance houses that were on board.

I'll also add a definite Chinese consortium that met EFC including Moyes, which would display it wasn't a first meeting, the year before.
Not arsed who wants to call me out on this but, decent proactive blues know I haven't given them dud info.

Like I've said mate I know you know a lot of details , in relation to interested parties more than anyone I've encountered on everton forums

I've had this debate for I don't get why blues who are opposed to kenwright believe there is no interest that basically accepts his 'nobody out there' stuff which is patently untrue . When there are rumours or links they say "kenwright spin" , so do they believe nobody wants us ? I just can't reconcile that mentality , I get it from bills supporters but not those who want change.

I'll say it again if there are figures quoted and rumours of interest that never moves to more than that , how does it help bill ? It's a stick to beat him (probably correctly ) with .

 

[riddick]

the thing that bothers me about the jain group, didn't they come out and say ' we have no interest here, no idea where this rumor is coming from'?

and if the price is known before hand, why do these meetings go south?

 

[Timak]

Ignoring the literary slapstick.....Do you think that the Blue Union would have better served Everton by endeavouring to open up a continuing dialogue with the club rather than indulge in feeble point scoring?

Steve - KEIOC and other fans groups met with board members / employees of Everton on numerous occasions. The meeting were always civil but VERY frustrating.

The attitude of the board has always been defeatist, Bill might be a great at West End productions, but he is ridiculously uninvolved in Everton for the major shareholder. There is no vision and no planning.

I've heard from those who met with Elstone that he is a personable and competent man but gets no direction from above on what the plan is. He also seems to view all fans groups with suspicion as if they are after his job rather than trying to help.

I don't even want to get started on the likes of Ian Ross who was just openly hostile and snide about Everton fans.

 

[Dell Boy]

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Is the current owner trying to sell it ? It seems to be a fairly easy and regular income at odds with the money they could gain on the lump sum if he cashed in .

Finch Farm has been for sale for at least the last 18 months. Evrton's 'buy-back' option makes it a tainted investnent for any third party.

Despite what Steve Wigan says it could be bought by the club at any time.

What folk don't realise is that the club now is no different to whether we owned Finch Farm or Goodison without a mortgage on it. The club's accounts already show the annual costs of both these loans/rents.

So you don't look. At the price of the club and then say "****" add in £20m to buy the training ground and £25m to pay off the Goodison loan as thatready been accounted for.