Financial spending in England

[chicoazul]

i'm a bit ginger mesenn, so will only stun my own kind...just me beard, tho'...uptop is brown with some grey streaks.


how's the photography going, anyroad?

It would be like friendly fire lid. I get you.

Sound thanks. Had a quiet week or two but got my macro extension tubes so am keen to get some creepy crawlies with them. Dearly want a macro lens but the price of them is a bit crazy so am going to go with what I got until I'm rich.

Took this.

 

[Neiler]

They have bigger fish to fry. We don't.

The point though, what has league position got to do with weak cup exists, if your using the same yardstick you cant start measuring meters.

 

[Ihaters]

I agree. Dave's often said that Moyes is time rich if not resources rich and that makes up somewhat for it.

Yeah but 11 years of other teams around you spending loads of money whilst you lose players and have to make do with cheap replacements, isn't exactly the major advantage people are making out.
If he was well funded throughout that time then I would agree but he's falling further behind every year in terms of what is bought elsewhere against what he can buy.

 

[Allezfan]

The point though, what has league position got to do with weak cup exists, if your using the same yardstick you cant start measuring meters.

Come on Man U put out four or five reserves in their semi against us because it was third in their priorities list and they ended up winning the league, the league cup, the world club cup and reaching the CL final that year. You can't compare that to our search for our first trophy in 18 years.

 

[dholliday]

Took this.

nice! very 70's-looking.


Get yoursenn this lens for about 100 squid...amazing quality, gets obscenely close, and also good for general stuff.

 

[Brennan]

Two strawmans in one argument.

1: what does league position have to do with limp cup exits?
2a: it's not our job to find the next manager, none of us knew Moyes back in 2001 either
2b: we've had loads of threads with dozens of suggested managers, many from Europe with cup pedigree.

I think you might want to learn what a strawman is first, tbh.

I was directly responding to those who have been calling for Moyes' head recently because of his poor cup performances, despite the fact that he is what has kept us top half of the table. Without him there is every chance we'll slide down the league, something which we as a club can in no way afford. I don't think you really understood my position in the first place. The fact that financially we're 14th in the league and are yet currently 6th speaks volumes about how important Moyes is to the way this club operates. I have never once said that he can't improve tactically, or that we can't win cup matches and be financially conservative.

Explain to me where the strawman is in that.

 

[dholliday]

if your using the same yardstick you cant start measuring meters.

I don't know, a yard and a meter are actually quite close in length.

 

[Neiler]

Come on Man U put out four or five reserves in their semi against us because it was third in their priorities list and they ended up winning the league, the league cup, the world club cup and reaching the CL final that year. You can't compare that to our search for our first trophy in 18 years.

We did the same against Leeds mate and it still hurt - its all relative. Spurs are similar: 1991, have spent 100s of millions and apart from a league cup under George Graham - if i remember correctly, theyve acheived less then us relatively under Moyes. Their last fa cup final Gazza and Lineker were playing.

 

[dholliday]

Explain to me where the strawman is in that.

There you go, my ginger friend.

 

[Allezfan]

We did the same against Leeds and still hurt - its all relative. Spurs are similar 1991, have spent 100s of millions and apart from from a league cup under Geroge Graham - if i remember correctly, theyve acheived less then us, relatively under Moyes.

Won a second league cup under Ramos, I think. And had a run to the CL quarters.

 

[Brennan]

There you go, my ginger friend.

As i suspected, you can't.

 

[chicoazul]

nice! very 70's-looking.


Get yoursenn this lens for about 100 squid...amazing quality, gets obscenely close, and also good for general stuff.

Will at some point lid. At the moment I'm going to use my 50mm prime with the extension tubes and try and get proficient at that.

Also took this, but want to get into proper macro as I like it.

 

[dholliday]

As i suspected, you can't.

You're doing the strawman by focussing on telling me I don't know what it means and avoiding the actual debate.

Beyond parody...I doff my cap to you.

 

[dholliday]

Also took this

Proper 3D! you'e a bit good, you know.

which 50mm prime you got?

 

[chicoazul]

Proper 3D! you'e a bit good, you know.

which 50mm prime you got?

I'm not but I'll get there lid, thanks.

The cheapest one I could find, Canon EF 50m f/1.8. It was just over 80 notes so I was delighted.