Financial spending in England

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dholliday said:
Yeah, good call. Scratch that old Olympus lens I recommended, as you've already got the 50mm range covered. I used to have the 100mm f2.8 you linked...it's one of the best, and has the modern superfast, superquiet autofocus.

just buy it, it's only money.
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Stop this, you're no good for my financial health.

I will do mate when I'm drunk. I've so far got an 18-55mm and 55-250mm, then I bought the prime. Then the extension tubes. I'm conscious about walking before I can run mate. Don't want to be one of them lids who has all the equipment but keeps the camera on autofocus.

You're making me think of the macro and that's no good!
 
Artetafan said:
dholliday asked me to look this up. Essentially given Moyes and his fans cry poverty while ignoring our huge wage bill, just how many teams have actually outspend us in his time here.

From 2002 to 2012, which is 10 seasons, Moyes has spent 453.93 million pounds on bringing in and paying himself, his coaches and his players. That's wages (443.48 million pounds) and transfer fees (114 million pounds) minus the money he's made by selling players (103.6 million pounds). So in ten top flight seasons that's 45 million pounds per season spent on the first team. (Discounting money paid to agents because the data's hard to get ahold of but we're bang midtable and the money's smalle enough not to make much of a difference so I'm ignoring it.)

I'm anti kenwright but to make it clear this isn't about the board. Whether the money the manager has is earned mostly by the team (prize money, cup runs), the fans (attendence, merchandise) or the board (loans, sponsorship, investment) doesn't effect how much money he has to spend.

The main problem with this comparison is a lot of teams have been in the lower leagues where the fees aren't comparable. So to be fair we'll just be looking at the top flight expenditure and dividing by the number of seasons it.

Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool and Man Utd have obviously all outspend us in those ten years so that's 4.
Sunderland have spent 7 seasons in the top flight in that time. And in those seven seasons they spent 408.53 million or 56.36 million per season. So that's 5.
Arsenal have spent 952 million on wages in those ten years and made 20 million on transfers so that's 93 million per season. 6
Tottenham have spent 661 million in ten seasons or 66 million a season. 7.
Aston Villa have spent 105.7 million on transfers and 534 million on wages. So 63 million a season. 8
Stoke have spent 4 of those seasons in the top flight and spent 254 million during them. Thats 63 million a season. 9
QPR have spent just the one of those seasons in the top flight and spent 114 million in that one season. That's 10.
Newcastle spent nine of those seasons in the top flight and spent 535 million. So 59 mil a season. 11
West Ham spent seven seasons and 377.55. So 53 million a season. 12
Fulham have spent 45.7 million per season. 13

So Moyes' everton is the 14th top spending team in england during his time here. Everyone else (bolton, pompey, blackburn, charlton, brum, wigan, leeds etc) we outspend.

Boro are worth adding here. In that they outspend us during the time they were a prem side and moyes was our manager but the rising wages since then have meant they don't as a whole.

This isn't a pro moyes post because I want him out of this club, yeseterday if possible. But it comes up often enough that I thought people might appreciate some facts.
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By the way thanks for doing this, good work matey..
 
chicoazul said:
I'm conscious about walking before I can run mate. Don't want to be one of them lids who has all the equipment but keeps the camera on autofocus.
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tru dat...then have a rule where you're allowed 3 lenses max. so sell the one you use least first before getting the 100mm macro
 
Ihaters said:
Not me mate, not a clue about cameras..
Err finances.. Where's the cheap camera replacement money Bill??
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Hahahaha.

Brennan said:
Hopefully the mods will take action against the fat head.
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Err mods?

dholliday said:
tru dat...then have a rule where you're allowed 3 lenses max. so sell the one you use least first before getting the 100mm macro
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In that case there's no chance! It will have to wait. The macro extension tubes are a good compromise but I was speaking to Bilko, who like yourself is ace at photography, about only being able to focus on a small part of the subject. I found it off putting and was adjusting my composition but it was still the same. I'll experiment again this weekend mate.
 
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