Everton are small time...

[COYBL25]

Couldn't agree more.

Sentimentalism when we need professionalism. It's the hallmark of the Kenwright era.

Whilst Kenwright has anything to do with the club, we're never going to reach the next level.

I doubt whether he consulted Moshiri, when he came out with his recent " gush " about him wanting Unsworth to get the job.

He's more like a dewey eyed fan boy than a chairman.

 

[Blues Harp]

Whilst Kenwright has anything to do with the club, we're never going to reach the next level.

I doubt whether he consulted Moshiri, when he came out with his recent " gush " about him wanting Unsworth to get the job.

He's more like a dewey eyed fan boy than a chairman.

Nail on head...cringeworthy stuff..

 

[Joey66]

I borrowed the text from that tweet last night too - I hoped it was a wind-up but alas it wasn't.

Look we have blown well over 100 million on players, who at the moment look iffy one or two look good - any manager has to get these players to gel - the last manager can now play golf all day its his team he has left - It will be a hard slog this season for any new manager - I was not expecting miracles last night - we have never won that cup under many names or format with our great teams - the team did show a bit of pace,and passion but to let in 2 goals from corners needs working on!
It was a bit of an improvement Rome was not built in a day!

 

[orly]

also Dortmund didnt win a thing between 2001-2011 ( only 10 years i know but a pretty long time), the top 5 record attendances for there stadium are within them 10 years.

Also a quote from an article i found on it

"Hesse believes the stand was first called the Yellow Wall in 2005, by a group of ultras who made a giant banner that hung from South Stand saying ‘Gelbe Wand Dortmund’ (Yellow Wall Dortmund).

That same ultras group had previously arranged choreography that featured a giant banner, more than 30 metres wide, with a quote from Oscar Wilde, the nineteenth-century English playwright: ‘We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars.’

“The ultras then added their own quote, ‘At the end of the dark alley shines the Yellow Wall’ and that is where the name comes from,” said Hess"

You genuinely would like us to copy something that has

[an] ultras group had previously arranged choreography that featured a giant banner, more than 30 metres wide, with a quote from Oscar Wilde, the nineteenth-century English playwright: ‘We are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars.’

Jesus Mary and Joseph.

I'm sorry mate, I'm going to have to back off here because I can't, and never will, understand this mentality.

 

[Joey66]

It is utterly abysmal, losing to that Chelski side !!

Koeman would have lost there anyway!

 

[Bungle]

We went to the champions playing awful, 3rd from bottom, practically out of Europe and having been spanked by every half decent team we've played this season.

It was a great performance. We should have won.

We aren't a top team at the moment. We are relegation candidates so stop writing as if we are a top team.

Unsworth is starting from the worst position of any manager since Moyes took over.

Whether Walsh can bring in the players we need remains to be seen.

How many of the players in the Chelsea lineup are in their starting 11 regularly mate? They are clearly still talented players but it wasn't their first 11, we had a more experienced side out than they did. I've taken nothing away from the performance last night, the second half was much improved and it was nice to see players played in the correct positions and looking much more up for it.

This has kind of veered off onto focusing on last night alone, that wasn't really the point.

 

[LiamG]

Sentimentality is one of the biggest causes of where we currently are as a club, lets use Tony Hibbert as an example, according to wiki he played 7 games for us in the 2 seasons between 2012-2014, no idea how many of those were as a sub. At the end of those 2 seasons we gave him a 2 year contract extension, why? He played another 5 games in the following 2 years.

I have no idea what wage he was on but lets go low and say £20k, so in 4 seasons we've spent £4m for him to play 12 games. All because of sentimentality. I don't even care if I've got those figures wrong, you get the point.

After Koeman I'm happy for a bit of sentimentality.

But that example you gave had nothing to do with sentimentality - that's just the excuse. Just like signing Martina that decision came down to nothing but cold hard cash. We don't need sentimentality to sign rubbish backup RBs.

 

[Milkman]

Oh I don't know about that mate. They are the cringiest, most overly sentimental bunch of loonies I've ever known, they had a 6 month leaving party for their captain, make banners comparing their players to historical mythical figures and write open letters to new signings welcoming them into the "LFC family" as well as books like this.

Eurghhhh, that's gross. Maybe a bad example then. It's maybe more relevant to Man City or Chelsea.

 

[MikeH72]

How many of the players in the Chelsea lineup are in their starting 11 regularly mate? They are clearly still talented players but it wasn't their first 11, we had a more experienced side out than they did. I've taken nothing away from the performance last night, the second half was much improved and it was nice to see players played in the correct positions and looking much more up for it.

This has kind of veered off onto focusing on last night alone, that wasn't really the point.

They had Willian, Cahill, Zappacosta, Rudiger and Batshuayi starting, as well as Pedro, Morata and Fabregas coming off the bench. Actually quite a few regulars in there, to write it off as their reserves is a bit unfair.

 

[matty1878]

Of course we are. We're not even a top 6 club anymore. It's going take serious serious cash to ever compete again.

 

[JLW]

Look we have blown well over 100 million on players, who at the moment look iffy one or two look good - any manager has to get these players to gel - the last manager can now play golf all day its his team he has left - It will be a hard slog this season for any new manager - I was not expecting miracles last night - we have never won that cup under many names or format with our great teams - the team did show a bit of pace,and passion but to let in 2 goals from corners needs working on!
It was a bit of an improvement Rome was not built in a day!

Let's hope Unsworth isnt given the tools to build our 'Rome'

 

[zandvoort blue]

48 hours into Unsworth and a decent performance away to Chelsea, and some of you are putting the boot into him and the club. Shameful

 

[Joey66]

or are they?

I've been reading the Unsworth thread this morning and have to say I agree with the majority of what @orly has been eluding to, or at least I think he's been eluding to.

I'm a massive fan of David Unsworth as a person, who knows I might even be a huge fan of his managerial ability in a few games, but who knows. He's saying all the right things, using all the usual buzzwords about history, big club etc, but there's something that bothers me about it. It's bordering on a scripted theatrical performance that Bill Kenwright has written. I mean he said all that and then played a CB pairing of Jagielka and Williams and an utterly useless Rooney.

We've just lost and been knocked out of the cup but there's the tweet @orly highlighted celebrating a debut and the return of the ginger fella with a nationality disorder. I can't think of another top club that deals with this sort of stuff in the same small time cringey way as Everton. We over hype minor events, we team up with Umbro, SportPesa and Angry Birds and that's before we even get to the kitbag deal.

Why would an organisation that has an ounce of sense keep Bill Kenwright and Robert Elstone around? You could argue that it's a transitional period but it would appear that they have just as much involvement at the club now as they did before Farhad came along, if not more.

We have grand ambitions, or so we're told, but everything about how we communicate via social media and the deals we sign suggest anything but that. The twitter reads like some die hard blue that refuses to hear a bad word said about the club, rather than a professionally run club employing a social media expert.

If we truly are serious about being a big club then we need to knock this stuff on the head and start behaving like a professional outfit.

spending 100 million plus is not small time and who ever get the manager's job has to work with the same players till January if you think getting a big name manager now can make a massive difference ????
unsworth has a month to get team sprit and belief in the squad he has one game on give him a chance!

 

[MikeH72]

48 hours into Unsworth and a decent performance away to Chelsea, and some of you are putting the boot into him and the club. Shameful

No one's putting the boot into Unsworth in this thread or anywhere tbh. The boot is being put into the club, but so it should be.

 

[Bungle]

They had Willian, Cahill, Zappacosta, Rudiger and Batshuayi starting, as well as Pedro, Morata and Fabregas coming off the bench. Actually quite a few regulars in there, to write it off as their reserves is a bit unfair.

I didn't write it off as their reserves but people seem to fail to acknowledge that probably 6 of their starting 11 aren't regular starters and have gone off like we've just narrowly lost against a team of world beaters.