peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
You claimed that the EU were blocking the UK from making trade deals - 'that were not on the table'. Not true, the UK can trade with any country now as a member of the EU. The UK is not at 'the whims and mercy of another 27 votes' in relation to trade deals. The UK can sell its' products anywhere in the world, as the trade figures show.
'We may lose a bit from the EU but gain far more elsewhere'. Which products are the UK going to sell to which countries that it can't sell now? The 'gain far more elsewhere' doesn't exist and that is not down to the EU or the EU blocking 'free trade' agreements. The UK doesn't sell more to the EU or further afield due to demand. And that is before the UK could possibly lose some of its passporting financial services sector agreement. The vultures in the EU are hovering over the UK financial sector waiting to pick the bones.
A devalued pound can help the UK export more if it is not a major import of raw materials and goods that go into producing the product. Those that import components to make things, the price has risen and made UK products more expensive.
The biggest threat('their pain) to Germany is the US punitive $14 billion fine against Deutsche bank that is designed to bankrupt it and will, if implemented in full, have far reaching financial and economic implications for not only Germany, Europe but the rest of the world.
The UK can trade with the EU after, or if, it leaves the EU but will have to pay tariffs unless it can negotiate a non tariff favourable deal. The financial sector, the main driving force behind the UK economy, is the UK's Achilles heel and those on the continent know it. The UK hasn't got a good hand to deal and they know it, as was shown in parliament today.
I think we dealt with this earlier.....