Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

I reckon he's a teacher.......

His class must be bottom grade then!lol

 

[Neiler]

If we are brexiteers should the Remainers by real called Calvelliers because their ears don't seem to hear the vote was out of the EU?lol

The river in Egypts I'd say, Sterling is at a seven year low and continues to plummet, you guys know what happens next, right.

That's happening at a time were the Euro is at historical weakest ever and printing money hand over fist, still wiping the floor with Sterling at a scary rate.

When this filters down to the real economy, it's bad lads. What was feared is happening.

 

[Tubey]

Nobody knows though Tubey. The remainers who were so precise with the forecasts of recession, doom and despondency, have been shown up tbh. The remainers who just felt that not changing is a good course of action probably have the strongest argument. Those that wanted to leave did so for a huge variety of reasons, some you might probably never understand. The point is though that where we are today, no one knows. It may well be an adventure. But you know what isn't that better than just doing sod all.........

They haven't; it just hasn't happened yet.

And no, it isn't better than doing sod all, because it wasn't worth the risk. Not even close to being worth it. You don't go on an 'adventure' with millions of peoples lives at stake.

The populist, 'DEY TUK UR JURRBS', Trump-esque rhetoric won the day with Brexit, and I fear we'll be paying for it for many, many years to come, if not permanently.

I just hope those lies Leave peddled will be documented, and the likes of Johnson, Farage and Gove will be held to account for them in the future.

 

[Groucho]

There was no plan. Just a vision. Now the plan is being worked up. Sometimes in life Groucho you have to go with a gut feeling, a bit like getting married. It may make no financial sense but what a journey.......

I just think the future of the nation should've been based on actual facts and planning.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The hysteria in here is ridiculous. What exactly has changed? Well simply, the pound is down and the economy is growing at fastest rate of any G7 country.

Hardly a crisis.

The only people causing the hysteria and claiming we're doomed are the same people who claimed we were idiots for not joining the euro currency. Things are going fine. We will emerge in a stronger position than any euro zone country.

 

[peteblue]

I just think the future of the nation should've been based on actual facts and planning.

But you did get married, right ?.......

 

[Tubey]

I just think the future of the nation should've been based on actual facts and planning.

Indeed.

That's why I'm amazed, because there are people who are genuinely surprised as "hard Brexit" - like there was the option of a "soft" one.

The bulk of people who voted Leave had absolutely no idea what they were voting for, and that's why it's so frustrating. On the eve of the vote, some of my own family were convinced we'll "just find a way" of staying in the single market but "taking back control" of our borders, because that's the lie they were told.

 

[Joey66]

It just seems daft to me that there was no plan to begin with, those that led the leave campaign have all essentially buggered off knowing there was no plan as they expected to lose, and now there is still no real plan of action.

Although I admit I voted remain, the current status of our leaving appears to be less than organised.

*This is not a critique of those who voted leave before people take this personally and get uppity*

It was pure arrogance from DC an Gideon they thought won one in Scotland it was a formality no plan for Brexit I bet you if Scotland had voted for independence there would have been no plan for that as it was based on oil and look how that dropped like a stone!
I wanted to hear from the Remain side openness of contributions what we got on everything in the EU - How to redress on areas from migrants in certain areas of the country how much the on cost was worked out nil absolutely nothing from the PM
Just scare tactics that are carrying on doing our country harm it will be bumpy as a 43 year divorce would be!

 

[peteblue]

The hysteria in here is ridiculous. What exactly has changed? Well simply, the pound is down and the economy is growing at fastest rate of any G7 country.

Hardly a crisis.

The only people causing the hysteria and claiming we're doomed are the same people who claimed we were idiots for not joining the euro currency. Things are going fine. We will emerge in a stronger position than any euro zone country.

Remember Tony Blair and the CBI saying that we'd be doomed if we didn't join......that worked out well......

 

[ToffeeTim]

I just think the future of the nation should've been based on actual facts and planning.

The fact is that continued membership of the EU would have been equally uncertain. What power would we have lost next? Who would we have been left to bail out next? Who would be our next EU joiner? What level of immigration would have been thrust on us?

We can actually decide our own laws now.

 

[Groucho]

But you did get married, right ?.......

Yes.

Not sure me getting married is an accurate analogy mate.

After all, isn't this EU thing effectively a separation?

 

[peteblue]

Indeed.

That's why I'm amazed, because there are people who are genuinely surprised as "hard Brexit" - like there was the option of a "soft" one.

The bulk of people who voted Leave had absolutely no idea what they were voting for, and that's why it's so frustrating. On the eve of the vote, some of my own family were convinced we'll "just find a way" of staying in the single market but "taking back control" of our borders, because that's the lie they were told.

Have you never done anything because you believe it to be right ?.......

 

[Joey66]

The river in Egypts I'd say, Sterling is at a seven year low and continues to plummet, you guys know what happens next, right.

That's happening at a time were the Euro is at historical weakest ever and printing money hand over fist, still wiping the floor with Sterling at a scary rate.

When this filters down to the real economy, it's bad lads. What was feared is happening.

It's Halloween soon don't go outlol

 

[peteblue]

Yes.

Not sure me getting married is an accurate analogy mate.

After all, isn't this EU thing effectively a separation?

Its ditching the overbearing girlfriend and a marriage to the rest of the world, including those South Americans.......

 

[Tubey]

The hysteria in here is ridiculous. What exactly has changed? Well simply, the pound is down and the economy is growing at fastest rate of any G7 country.

Hardly a crisis.

The only people causing the hysteria and claiming we're doomed are the same people who claimed we were idiots for not joining the euro currency. Things are going fine. We will emerge in a stronger position than any euro zone country.

The devaluation is to keep the economy competitive - it has happened organically, because investment is flowing outwards so it needs to self-balance.

Inflation is the net result of that. Once other economies kick on, we'll foreseeably be left in the dirt because confidence in our status in the world is at a low, so suddenly you have rapid inflation - and that's the concern; that inflation will get out of control, because not enough "good" is happening to counterbalance it.