Current Affairs EU In or Out

[-Rob-]

Just listening to a man in LBC saying that you can't have a referendum where there are more than 2 options. Not challenged, nobody said 'of course you can' it was just glazed over.

He's also just said he thinks the EU are less prepared for No Deal because we only have to prepare one country whereas the EU have to prepare 27...

No wonder we are in sinking sand and thrashing about.

Was I listening to the same thing? It was challenged. Sheila Foggerty challenged it. She pointed out that any vote can have more than 2 options and we could potentially have a referendum with more than 2 options. I'm guessing she didn't push the issue because she probably believes that if we were to have another referendum then only having 2 options (Leave or Remain) is the best way forward. Adding further options dilutes the result.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Was I listening to the same thing? It was challenged. Sheila Foggerty challenged it. She pointed out that any vote can have more than 2 options and we could potentially have a referendum with more than 2 options. I'm guessing she didn't push the issue because she probably believes that if we were to have another referendum then only having 2 options (Leave or Remain) is the best way forward. Adding further options dilutes the result.

Must have been, it's too much of a coincidence. I missed the bit she challenged it. I'm glad she did - it did surprise me as she's normally very good.

 

[Barnfred 55]

just been reading this bill came across this bit.
‘If the European Council proposes an extension to a different date then the Prime Minister must accept that extension within two days, unless the House of Commons rejects it.
not an expert on it but surely that would be leaving it open to the bill being refused royal consent ,as you cannot have an outside body telling the government of the UK what to do as a precedent making this bill open to refusal at that stage ?
might be reading it wrong but that looks like that at first glance.

Not a legal expert or anything, but the fact that the commons has the power within the act to reject the EUs proposal keeps parliament effectively in control.

CBA reading the bill myself. Did it say anything about the EU imposing conditions, such as financial, or maybe insisting on a GE or similar?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

No Dominic Cummings is a genius level intellect who nobody could possibly out manoeuvre. He's the Picasso of political strategy; a maverick with incredible versatility*

*He employed that unbelievably revolutionary strategy of playing to people's fears and patriotism. Oh and lying...lots of lying.

Reactionary panic is what I call it. Like a trapped rat the Tory Government is only to keen to chew off its own limb...

 

[Barnfred 55]

yep we need one, get rid of the house of lords as well while we are at it.
i have given up all pretence of having a clue what's going to happen theses days.

Agree with all that and would add in a concise list of rules and regulations for the speaker to comply with.

 

[magicjuan]

I think Mr. Cummings has spent too much time watching American TV political dramas.

He seems to model his abrasive, bullying style on the Chief off Staff characters in the likes of The West Wing, Scandal and Madam Secretary.

It's Bannon.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Boris Johnson secretly agreed to suspend parliament two weeks before denying it would happen, documents reveal

Just nine days ago, Downing Street strongly denied any intention to shut down parliament – but disclosure to Scottish court shows otherwise

www.independent.co.uk

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Boris Johnson secretly agreed to suspend parliament two weeks before denying it would happen, documents reveal

Just nine days ago, Downing Street strongly denied any intention to shut down parliament – but disclosure to Scottish court shows otherwise

www.independent.co.uk

Precisely why Johnson cannot be trusted on the election date...

 

[peteblue]

Good luck to the wife, Peter.

Good luck to you both chief.

Hope all goes well.

Best wishes to both you and the Mrs.

Hear hear, hope your wife is okay @peteblue

Thanks guys, and all was well.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Thanks guys, and all was well.....

Brexit has been scrapped while you were gone.

 

[peteblue]

any idea what time this bill goes before the house?

Well if it succeeds and as it’s going to cost us £750 Million for every month delay, then ‘bill’ really is the correct word.....

 

[peteblue]

Brexit has been scrapped while you were gone.

Fair enough, I’ll put my hands up and apologise......

 

[peteblue]

...this cabal today will refuse to accept any legislation forced on it by parliament, then ignore any attempt to stop a GE by running a coach and horses through the Fixed Term Parliament Act on a required 2/3rds majority to hold a new GE.

It's out of control. Chaos. The result of this utter 'kin clown taking the advice of a weedy nobhead like Cummings who takes his strategy from war games.

It'd be comical if it weren't all so serious. A 'kin nerd and a clown driving the country over a cliff.

But I thought both you and Corbyn wanted a GE, not getting a bit nervous are you.......

 

[peteblue]

Can anyone explain what a further three month delay would actually achieve ?, is this the plan then to keep kicking it down the road, for what purpose ?......

 

[Khalekan]

Thanks guys, and all was well.....

Glad to hear that