Yes but now the Tories have game theory extrodinaire Dominic Cummings!
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minority government?
I wasn't specific but by Soft Brexit I did mean SM/CU membership and I would also add that all citizens rights are reciprocally agreed bilaterally if the that doesn't cover it.
Basically I'm fine with a form of Brexit where nobody loses anything.
Not sure we've ever had one before have we? Equally not sure how such a thing would help resolve Brexit (assuming it isn't resolved by the time of any election)
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It's impossible to say without knowing the number of seats held by each party. If Labour were in the position the Conservatives are now, but with anything between 280 - 310 seats, they could probably quite comfortably form a minority government, especially if they only proposed measures which parties such as the SNP, the Lib Dems and Plaid Cymru would basically agree with and not introduce very controversial legislation. What their position on Brexit would be is unclear and therefore a major stumbling block in any possible coatition.
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Hear hear, hope your wife is okay @peteblue
Labour were a minority government in March-October 1974, and, I think, from about 1977 - 79; in the latter period they were propped up in a loose alliance with the Liberals.
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If Labour + allies cant find a majority it means that a coalition of others has the numbers - The Tory Party + Brexit + DUP.
It'd be way too unstable to govern, and last just long enough to get a no deal through...if that's what Johnson really wants...and I doubt he does. Soon after we'd have a Spring 2020 election.
I would assume a minority government with a confidence & supply deal for budgets etc. with however many parties are needed. But that won't be available for a simple £1b bribe, real concessions would have to be made on their legislative agenda, and the price for the LDs and SNP will be referendums. It will be messy but it's the only way I can see it working.
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...ahh, sorry. Underlines my ignorance of NI politics right there.
Is there any chance of Sinn Fein now taking up their seats at Westminster just to protect the GFA?
we have had 3 all Labour ones they have not last very long in the the cases , wouldn't really solve anything long term
they will not swear allegiance to the crown , so don't go for that reason not likely to change that stance anytime soon. plus they don't see parliament as a legitimate goverment of their country.
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Philip Hammond just went ballistic (for him) on the Today Programme: promising all out civil war in any election against what he calls the "infiltrators and entryists...many of whom aren't probably even members of the Tory Party" who have taken over the leadership.
He and his fellow refusenik chums (Real Tories as they'll position themselves) will come in handy in the upcoming GE campaign.
Tory Party tearing itself to shreds...I like that scenario heading into the election. Makes the LP look like a collegiate body at the moment.
It's all good and moving in the direction of the good guys. Rejoice.
He and his fellow refusenik chums (Real Tories as they'll position themselves) will come in handy in the upcoming GE campaign.
Tory Party tearing itself to shreds...I like that scenario heading into the election. Makes the LP look like a collegiate body at the moment.
It's all good and moving in the direction of the good guys. Rejoice.
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I think you're right. In normal times I'd expect that to hold, but with the fate of the GFA in the balance.....
I read earlier that there might be some change in the leadership of that party and wondered whether it might be linked to this issue. But yeah, it pretty much is a red line they cant go beyond if they want to retain credibility amongst Nationalists.
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