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    Votes: 688 67.9%

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    Votes: 325 32.1%
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davek said:
What?!?!

Bizarre statement.

Mate, dont take this personally, but I'm struggling to believe you really are a LP supporter, less still a LP member.
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On so many occasions in the last 3 years I've heard people proclaim 'ive always been a labour supporter, labour for 5 generations in my family, but Brexit has made my entire family, all 5 generations of us vote for Farage/Johnson/Batten/Tommy. This radical Marxist Corbyn will be ruinous for the country'

Can't ever recall anyone saying 'I've had enough of Brexit and Tories, I'll vote for Labour/Liberal.

Starting to remind me of the 'blue' supporters that inhabit the RS witch Hunt thread.
 
davek said:
By the end of the 6 week campaign minds will be changed, just as they were at the last GE.

You also paint a massively negative scenario for Labour, but look at the other side: Farage wont be standing down from seats, why should he? To allow Johnson to stab a no deal in the back post election? No chance. Once bitten by the Tories.... Also, the DUP are weaker now than they were and could lose a seat or two. The Tories will be obliterated in Scotland after Davidson turned her back on Johnson.

Oh, you've also failed to address the polls I was referring to: the Brexit polling. That will have a major impact on this GE as it did on the last. There is a big gap between those seeking a hard brexit and those wishing to either remain of have a soft brexit....and not in Johnson's favour.

All your anecdotal evidence is just noise: "Me mum said this and me sister said that"....yada yada yada.
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They are almost certain to lose South Belfast to the SDLP and a bit of tactical voting in North Belfast could very well unseat their talisman, Nigel Dodds, to Sinn Fein.

I would mortgage my house to bet on SDLP taking Derry back from Sinn Fein, which of course means one more chalked up for the anti Tory brigade in the HOC.

I am just looking here at the South Down numbers from 2017 and that is a Sinn Fein/SDLP marginal.....I could see the SDLP taking that seat as well.

So we could see three SDLP gains...two DUP losses.

That would translate, if my maths are right and allowing for the Sinn Fein fellow in North Belfast not taking his seat, to a five seat swing away from Johnson’s junta in NI.

Then there is Scotland......seven Tory seats almost certain to fall...the other six very much in play.

We might not get an overall majority, but neither will the Tories and I think this time the progressive alliances will be with the good guys :)

Mind you......there will be no October election.

Good ol’ David Cameron has come back to haunt Johnson .........and Corbyn gets to decide if there is an Election on October 14th.

I don’t think he will bite.

If we get this over the line tomorrow, send Johnson to Brussels on the 16th and let the EU hold his toes to the fire :)
 
Anyway, whatever we all think, today will be the day when whatever will be comes together. If the Remainers seize the commons then we will have a GE, many conservatives will be deselected and replaced, Bercow will have a conservative challenger and will lose his seat, Labour will lose the GE and Boris will have a proper majority.....
 
The speaker normally ends up in the Lords. Bercow knows that if he does what is expected he will do then his career, like two ex chancellors and a few ex cabinet members is over and he will go off into obscurity and probably lose his wife. So I wonder how it will play out......
 
Jimmy James said:
LK seems to be implying the govt could amend the election date after it's been called (and so possibly after 31st Oct). Or am I being a bit thick?
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Jimmy James said:
And then keep re-arranging it? That sounds like an auto-coup to me.
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Jimmy James said:
And then keep re-arranging it? That sounds like an auto-coup to me.
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Connor said:
Yeah, this is quite possible and seems to be the case.

They can re-arrange the date for post Oct 31.
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I am sure the anti Brexit forces are on top of this, lads.

They have outmanoeuvred this junta so far and wiped the smug smirk of Johnson’s face.

No reason to assume they will not have discussed this tactic.

The best way to ensure he cannot play sully beggars by moving the date after it has been set is not walk into the trap.

Which is why I think if we get this new legislation over the line tomorrow Corbyn will politely decline the invitation to hold a GE on October 14th.

Then Johnson is stuck.
 
Khalekan said:
I am sure the anti Brexit forces are on top of this, lads.

They have outmanoeuvred this junta so far and wiped the smug smirk of Johnson’s face.

No reason to assume they will not have discussed this tactic.

The best way to ensure he cannot play sully beggars by moving the date after it has been set is not walk into the trap.

Which is why I think if we get this new legislation over the line tomorrow Corbyn will politely decline the invitation to hold a GE on October 14th.

Then Johnson is stuck.
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Isnt there a risk that the Lords talk out the legislation? Or have I missed how that can be dealt with?
 
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