Charlie Sweet
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Best wishes to both you and the Mrs.
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Best wishes to both you and the Mrs.
It is possible but from what I can gather there are not enough Kamikaze Brexiters in the Lords to completely filibuster it and the Lords can sit over the weekend so that would stretch their resources too much.
The binman chronicles
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My parents who have never voted Tory in their lives are both pro BoJo and adamantly opposed to Corbyn. Growing up with that much hatred to Thatcher, the Tories and the ruling classes, this has been quite the eye opener I tell thee.
Britain is sleepwalking into oblivion and I hold the Corbyn supporters who thrust him to Labour leader to blame as much as Cameron/Farage/JRM/BoJo/Gove and Cummings et all. When you put a divisive figure at the head of the opposition you immediately empower a government to be able to silly things. It feels like I have sat here screaming for the last 4 years trying to warn Labour supporters that the course they are on is futile. The grassroots party may be energised by that but it won't win elections, especially when most of the country's constituencies are predominantly blue and the nationalists now have Scotland and that doesn't look like changing. Unless you have broad appeal it just won't work and Corbyn/unions/removing nuclear weapons is anathema to those people.
Instead of trying to change the wheel, just come up with a soft version of socialism to start with and I don't care if you call that Tory-lite or compassionate conservatism, but you can't help anyone if you are not in power. Then when you're there and you have proven you can govern well you can look to more of the socialist policies to help the many instead of the few.
zzr45
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I’ve voted Conservative for every election since I was able to vote, the EU elections I changed to Lib Dem’s and if there was an election tomorrow I’d vote LD again.
Honestly I feel that the Tories have always looked after us in area i live in, but I can’t support Brexit as I rely on the EU trade link for a job, and honestly I don’t feel like we’re being treated well anymore.
McBain
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Can somebody sum this up?
So far I have :
- Britain (England?) decides to leave the European Union by Public Referendum. This may also be Wales, Scotland and Ireland but not sure. Probably means the 'BR' in Brexit.
- Britain and the EU can't agree to the terms of leaving? Britain can't just leave for some reason which isn't exactly clear. They may have left some personal items in the EU and want them back before they go.
- There is something called 'Deal' and 'No Deal' which sounds like, but is not an episode of Deal or No Deal.
- The PM can't agree with her own Party and runs away with a nice pension and a cushy job she has been promised by corporate lobbyists.
- Boris (BoJo) becomes PM and says pipe down Government for a minute because I'm doing something here.
- That something is either Deal or No Deal? but may or may not contain the Irish Backstop, which I'm told sounds like, but isn't Eoin Morgan at deep backward point.
- It's all Jeremy Corbyn's fault, for being Jeremy Corbyn?
So far I have :
- Britain (England?) decides to leave the European Union by Public Referendum. This may also be Wales, Scotland and Ireland but not sure. Probably means the 'BR' in Brexit.
- Britain and the EU can't agree to the terms of leaving? Britain can't just leave for some reason which isn't exactly clear. They may have left some personal items in the EU and want them back before they go.
- There is something called 'Deal' and 'No Deal' which sounds like, but is not an episode of Deal or No Deal.
- The PM can't agree with her own Party and runs away with a nice pension and a cushy job she has been promised by corporate lobbyists.
- Boris (BoJo) becomes PM and says pipe down Government for a minute because I'm doing something here.
- That something is either Deal or No Deal? but may or may not contain the Irish Backstop, which I'm told sounds like, but isn't Eoin Morgan at deep backward point.
- It's all Jeremy Corbyn's fault, for being Jeremy Corbyn?
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Kinnock on radio 4 yesterday confirmed that if a GE is called and BJ said it was such and such a date, it could then be altered to after October 31st and therefore we just leave by default.
So for a GE to be agreed there would have to be cast-iron guarantees as to the date being kept (insofar as it could be guaranteed).
NilSatisOptimum
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No deal would have to be completely nullified as an option for Corbyn to be in agreement.
Cool_Blue
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Yes, that’s more or less it.
The binman chronicles
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So parliaments cunning plans is let's kick the can down the road for three months and let the EU tell us ok to do just that again,
meanwhile we have no united opposition stance to brexit, other than no deal brexit is off the table, well OK what's going on the table?
no plan from either side that can at least try and bring the country together.
just we win or you win from both sides
Brilliant just what we need
What a shambles , hope we get a GE to bring this to a head finally one way or the other.
meanwhile we have no united opposition stance to brexit, other than no deal brexit is off the table, well OK what's going on the table?
no plan from either side that can at least try and bring the country together.
just we win or you win from both sides
Brilliant just what we need
What a shambles , hope we get a GE to bring this to a head finally one way or the other.
Charlie Sweet
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And Johnson's plan is to not have a plan and "No Deal"?!
he has said repeatedly he wants a deal , if you believe a word out of his mouth.
i think his plan will be to get the basically the same deal already offered with a few scraps thrown in his direction from the EU to make it look like he has won something.
so no deal whats next?
This will probably be how it plays out. All you need to think with Johnson, is which scenario will make him look good. He’ll portray himself as some sort of Churchillian conqueror and people will buy it
Maybe all this showboating over ‘no deal’ is for his domestic political opponents and not the Eu in the hope that the opposition bottle it and vote through some watered down deal. Is that a possibility?
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