Current Affairs EU In or Out

[arminisgod]

I'd say higher than that

I agree. It really annoys me that people say l... 'nobody voted for a no deal' I voted the leave the EU knowing a no deal was the likeliest option.

 

[Barnfred 55]

He's just been piped right down by Dr Lewis hahahaha

I think you'll find mate that there are 2 probable scenarios in which they will agree to an extension (assuming none of the 27 member countries veto it which still could happen).

Firstly, if May has got agreement to her deal (or some deal) by next week they'll agree a short term extension just to give both side more time to get things over the line.

If not, to avoid going out on a no deal, the chances are they will agree a longer extension until the end of 2020 when the current 7 year financial cycle ends. This would give the UK time to rethink their position, organise a second referendum or a general election, and come to a consensus one way or the other. That would involve the UK taking part in the European elections in May and I really don't think they want that.

 

[arminisgod]

I'm no lawyer. I just read stuff about potentially extending mandates etc. I'd imagine if the delay is lengthy then the elections are inevitable.

Wouldn't bank on it...

 

[ToffeeTim]

Wouldn't bank on it...

You don't think they'll take place?

If we agree a very long delay then it's hard to see them not happening.

 

[Frang]

I think you'll find mate that there are 2 probable scenarios in which they will agree to an extension (assuming none of the 27 member countries veto it which still could happen).

Firstly, if May has got agreement to her deal (or some deal) by next week they'll agree a short term extension just to give both side more time to get things over the line.

If not, to avoid going out on a no deal, the chances are they will agree a longer extension until the end of 2020 when the current 7 year financial cycle ends. This would give the UK time to rethink their position, organise a second referendum or a general election, and come to a consensus one way or the other. That would involve the UK taking part in the European elections in May and I really don't think they want that.

IMHO I think alot of people are in for a huge shock in two weeks time.

May isn't getting a deal through whatsoever

And so there will be no need for any sort of extension

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Just saw it



What a mess!

 

[arminisgod]

You don't think they'll take place?

If we agree a very long delay then it's hard to see them not happening.

Sorry quoted the wrong post. It was meant to be about the extension being granted by the EU

 

[Wizard]

Think you need to grow a pair. That's scare mongering at its finest! Lots of countries survive and prosper without being part of the EU.

Explain to me again ... How will our economy tank? Why will insulin be in short supply? Will they stop producing it? Why will we have difficulty exporting things?

Do you choose not to read up on this stuff or just ignore it? Regardless of the form of Brexit, we will struggle in the short term and very likely the long term. We won’t have trade agreements in place if we leave with no deal. So tariffs, customs delays etc etc drive up price and lower supply.

If we take May’s deal then it won’t be as bad as that but we’re not taking control of anything as we will still have to adhere to EU regs to trade with them. So having a much worse trade deal with one of our biggest trade partners. We then have to renegotiate trade deals with everyone else. But they will be easy right?

Oh, and we’d be potentially screwing Northern Ireland and Ireland. But no one really cares about do they as long as we have our sovereignty and f****** blue passports.

 

[Wizard]

Oh i'l be in the thread.

So you just choose not to provide me with any facts on why Brexit (of any form) will be better?

 

[vagant59]

I wouldn't use that terminology, but I suppose it falls to the question of if you think your MP is representative of the constituency or a delegate for them.

I expect my MP to exercise their judgement on issues and I take a broad veiw of their political belief. I don't expect them to canvas opinion in a direct democracy style.

I would expect MP's to put the opinions of their constituents to one side as this was a national vote

 

[tsubaki]

What about the potentially very large number of people who would want to leave but not with Theresa May's deal?

That's the issue with your point. I reckon 20% + of the electorate would prefer a no deal.

Its more than that, and that should worry everyone. Half of them won't be personally affected (because they are retired) and the other half ignore all the evidence of their own lives, the lives of their parents and kids and decide to believe the papers instead.

 

[Frang]

So you just choose not to provide me with any facts on why Brexit (of any form) will be better?

As I've said I don't think it will be better..in the short.. This is a long game

But who knows

No ones got a crystal ball regards any of this

All these forecasts and projections ate continuously proven wrong!

No amount of scaremongering wil change my mind

 

[hktoffee]

Just saw it



What a mess!

What’s the point of doing that for the third time on 20 March...

 

[tsubaki]

I would expect MP's to put the opinions of their constituents to one side as this was a national vote

Constituent's interests they put to one side all the time, but they have never and will never collectively put party interests to one side for a national vote. 281 of them thought May 1940 was the right time to express their confidence in Neville Chamberlain, after all.

 

[tim cahill]

In 2 weeks? Good luck with that. Absolutely no evidence it will be changed unless the EU agree to an extension

They’ve just voted for it. And they’ve voted against leaving with no deal. There’s the evidence. The EU will agree to an extension unless May takes the piss.