Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Librarian]

They could postpone Brexit unilaterally, they don’t actually need to ask th EU, they can revoke article 50 and then invoke it again the next day if it comes to it

The EU have been pretty homogeneous thus far, so they’ll probably grant whatever is asked for

 

[Wizard]

Surely even the most ardent remainer accepts that the only way to call it off would be with another referendum? They can't just say no we are reversing the decision and that's that.

We can actually just revoke it. If Parliament decided that’s what we should do they can revoke and EU have to accept it.

It would be politically toxic here but it is possible.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Ok put it this way.

I’d like the country not to press the self destruct button.

If we leave the EU, we will become Little Britain. We will have no trade deals, our economy will tank, we’ll pay through the nose for anything imported, we’ll have difficulty exporting things, many will lose their jobs, medicines including vital lifesaving insulin will be in short supply, the list goes on.

But yeah, carry on.


Someone needs to grow a pair and do just that.

You have no evidence for any of that. That's pure hysteria.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Please stop dissing with me mate. You know full well what hypothetical means.

We are talking here about the principle of UK MEPs using the platform in the European parliament to speak out against the UK parliament policy. In both the hypothetical scenario and the Farage case this is what happens. So surely, if you're going to be consistent in this you have to say that it's either ok for both of them to use it, or wrong for both of them to use it. Personally I'm fine with it as I said.

I also asked you another hypothetical question which you didn't reply to. And that is how you would feel if remain won the first referendum and then 2 years later were pushing for a second referendum

I don't think I'd be happy, but let's not forget the near 40 years of 'leave campaigning' since we signed up to Europe. Also, it wouldn't happen as we would have a consensus of opinion and no actual further decisions to make. We would simply remain.

I also said I would think it's undemocratic, but that its different in so much as allowing the UK to exercise it's own democratic process rather than frustrating it.

 

[Ruairi77]

That's your opinion.

Nobody knows how this goes.

No one can tell me any different.

It's bit like religion this. Some ppl like to believe in fairy tales and others see right through them.

I'll tell you how this goes. If you get a no deal brexit, people on the border will be hurt or killed and 20 years of hard work to nullify morons will be wiped out, but you dont really care about that part of the UK, do you.

 

[Frang]

I'll tell you how this goes. If you get a no deal brexit, people on the border will be hurt or killed and 20 years of hard work to nullify morons will be wiped out, but you dont really care about that part of the UK, do you.

All I care about is leaving the EU as is the law on the 29th march

 

[Groucho]

You have no evidence for any of that. That's pure hysteria.

Likewise the land of milk and honey that leavers claim.

Does the fact that the vote was almost 50/50 not tell anyone anything?

 

[ToffeeTim]

We can actually just revoke it. If Parliament decided that’s what we should do they can revoke and EU have to accept it.

It would be politically toxic here but it is possible.

I'm completely aware of that. As you say, it's a unilateral option to revoke it. They can't say no.

But it's toxic as you say. It would show that our politicians are on a different planet and they would all lose their jobs at the next election.

There will have to be either a change of government to one which runs on a anti brexit manifesto, or another referendum, for this to be revoked.

 

[Frang]

Does the fact that the vote was almost 50/50 not tell anyone anything?

It could be 90/10

Same result

 

[Khalekan]

At least post the gif up!!

Oh yeah you don't know how

*face-palms

At least I backed Frodon

 

[Groucho]

It could be 90/10

Same result

But it wasn’t 90/10.

It was almost 50:50

 

[Ruairi77]

All I care about is leaving the EU as is the law on the 29th march

pretty selfish stuff

 

[Frang]

I'm completely aware of that. As you say, it's a unilateral option to revoke it. They can't say no.

But it's toxic as you say. It would show that our politicians are on a different planet and they would all lose their jobs at the next election.

There will have to be either a change of government to one which runs on a anti brexit manifesto, or another referendum, for this to be revoked.

@Wizard is just totally ignoring the will of the majority here..

No you can't just revoke article 50.

This is what the referendum was called for in the first place.

 

[Wizard]

That's your opinion.

Nobody knows how this goes.

No one can tell me any different.

It's bit like religion this. Some ppl like to believe in fairy tales and others see right through them.

I’ve tried not to bite too much but here goes.

In your religion analogy, citing believing in fairytales. Religious people believe things with no facts backing them up, non religious use facts to inform themselves against the “fairytales”.

In this case, there are actual facts about how Brexit will damage us, at least in the short term, and zero facts about how remaining will damage us in the long run.

Feel free to tell me some facts from your side to make me believe by all means.

 

[Frang]

But it wasn’t 90/10.

It was almost 50:50

Your an intelligent fella. I'm sure you don't need me to point out what the law states regards the referendum result