Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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I voted to leave. However i think that Europe didnt take the threat of the uk leaving seriously enough, if they had given Cameron a better deal, eg tighter restrictions on immigration, more powers back to the uk etc im almost certain we would have remained. I for one would have.
 
I voted to leave. However i think that Europe didnt take the threat of the uk leaving seriously enough, if they had given Cameron a better deal, eg tighter restrictions on immigration, more powers back to the uk etc im almost certain we would have remained. I for one would have.
To be honest mate I'd have voted to stay if the campaign for it focused on facts over fear mongering.
 
Much more "mature" people were claiming that "the man" was going to use a rubber on millions of ballot papers yesterday. Which do you think is more absurd?

Both, this has brought the worst out in many but you cant pick and choose democratic results you want to accept
 
To be honest mate I'd have voted to stay if the campaign for it focused on facts over fear mongering.

So forgetting about the naff campaigns, you actually agreed with remain yourself, but voted leave because the remain campaign were fear mongering?
 
Another interesting sideshow in all of this is that EU membership gave UK universities £3bn extra for research at a time when BIS and therefore the Research Councils have had their budgets slashed by around 30% by central government (so unless a major about turn is initiated it seems likely that academia is going to suffer quite significantly). Who is the minister for higher education? One Jo Johnson, brother of our soon to be prime minister.
 
Italy and Denmark's far right are now demanding an EU Exit, is that how we are now seen? Is that who we are now aligned with?

I think its an over all frightening trend in world politics mate, there is a vacuum there created by the legacy of the financial crash and its impact, faith in traditional political parties and institutions has dissipated and been replaced by populist politicians either on the far right or far left promising very simple answers to very complex problems, verging on questionable broader socialogical or personal agendas. It wont end well.

For the 7th biggest economy (at the moment) to decide to leave the EU and a country that has always been a standard bearer in the last century for liberty throughout Europe - well in the last century anyway i.e. WW1 & WW2 to close up the shop, disengage from the broader reciprocal system and choose nationalism over fiscal logic and social unity is quite simply frightening.

I really worry for Britain, more broadly for Europe and world politics and the welfare for each based on these events i really think its that significant.
 
I'd suggest your wrong on this. Perhaps immigration didn't feature in your decision making, but it certainly did in the majority of those who voted leave. To deny that is naive.

Of course it did. I'm not gonna deny it wasn't one of my main reasons.

To deny that you & those others said it was because of a hatred of foreigners (When it patently isn't) is naive. You have yourselves and your attitude to blame.
 
I find it incredible that you could vote for something and not even consider a huge aspect of political implication. Boris Johnson will be our next PM. Has that not sinked in yet?

Was either him, or another 4 years of camoron & gidiot - Tell me, what's the difference?

The difference is, we'll probably get the chance to oust the lot of them before their term's over.
 
Of course it did. I'm not gonna deny it wan't one of my main reasons.

To deny that you & those others said it was because of a hatred of foreigners (When it patently isn't) is naive. You have yourselves and your attitude to blame.

People have been taught to despise immigration. Taught by our ruling elite and by our ruling rags who present it to the working classes a scapegoat for failed policy which is actually the reason their are no jobs, houses and prospects.
 
Was either him, or another 4 years of camoron & gidiot - Tell me, what's the difference?

The difference is, we'll probably get the chance to oust the lot of them before their term's over.

That's a huge risk. You're risking a huge lurch to the right with the hope that we might be able to get rid. Not with no Scotland mate. Not off the back this eurosceptic success.
 
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