Dynamo Kiev v Everton. 19th March at 18.00.

[DrBungle]

We were done by poor team selection and naive tactics.....alcaraz doesn't belong at the club, and Martinez continue faith in Barry is as bad as moyes with Neville...

We didn't need tonights game to be open, we didn't need to win it!, draw it any we're through.....instead we end up conceding 5!, how the hell does that happen?!....

We should have set back and frustrated them like we did to Liverpool at Goodison....tonight was just so ridiculous.....alcaraz??!!!!, what was Martinez thinking?!....

Setup shop and catch them on the counter. Especially as it was obvious from the first 10 minutes they were going all guns blazing. They were ripe to be picked off then

 

[banno]

Some of you on here i feel are being very harsh. Yes, we were a bit of a shambles in central defence, but overall i think the guys put in a very good shift against a team that was, on the night, better, and also had a lot of dodgy decisions called their way by the referee. Most of the guys were worthy of the shirt, imo, in that they played with passion and gave 100%; as i said in my post above, the scoreline flattered Kiev, and on a different night it could have been very different.

Passion and 100% effort should go hand in hand with some technical ability. Huff and puff doesn't win many games. Kyiv showed that passion and 100% effort but had shrewdness and more ability to go with it. They hammered us fair and square

 

[froggyted]

Its ok lads, calm down. RM says we were unlucky and they scored exceptional goals.
We seem to be unlucky a lot under RM.
The man must be a jinx.

Or maybe he's just a positivist.

 

[peachy_fella]

It's incredible that Barry is still one of the 1st names on the team sheet. Think he's way off the pace. Don't like to pick on one player, but think he needs to pack it in we have much stronger players in his position.

Thought going forward we were alright but if you concede that many sloppy goals against a pretty good outfit like Dynamo. Your gonna loose.

 

[marnie]

Some of you are looking for positives FFS. We got banjoed up the arse good and proper. JESUS H CHRIST............ we conceded 5 goals. Have your glass of warm milk and get to bed..... cos you think it's going to better in the morning. Let me tell you .... IT ISN'T.

 

[COYBL25]

I guess that ultimately we have to accept that, on the night, we met a team that was more than our match. I agree with you that defensively we were flawed, but as i said in my OP if Barkley's two shots that hit the woodwork had gone in it would have been a different story. So, just an inch or two between glory and ignominy. But personally, i never expected us to win this trophy, it was always a long shot; nevertheless, i have enjoyed living the dream. I think we have to be realistic about where we are and the need for two or three top class players to be drafted in during the summer. It was interesting that Mirallas wasn't even on the bench, i suspect that we can maybe read something into that. You talk about us being embarrassed on national t.v., but i think that anyone who has followed our campaign from the start would have been impressed with what we achieved. In the end the scoreline flattered Kiev, and most non-partisan viewers would probably not conclude that we had been disgraced. In the end, once again it comes down to money and Kenwright's failure to find a buyer despite having apparently been looking for about ten years now. Maybe he should have gone to Specsavers. We have a squad which, imo, is the best since the mid-eighties, but without a fresh injection of cash next season we're not going to be able to capitalise on it and the better players will either come to the end of their career or drift away.

 

[Eric Djemba-Djemba]

I've just read the preview.

 

[froggyted]

Moyes said we would ******* regret it.
Why must Everton constantly break our hearts.

That was an arrogant thing of Moyes to say imo, and I don't forget the way he ditched us, in the end he wasn't a Blue, he was after the glory.

 

[SNova]

I honestly think a pub team could have scored against our defense. A long ball up into the box then they would just wait for Alcaraz to miss read it and then when it falls to their feet shoot.

 

[Joey66]

It's incredible that Barry is still one of the 1st names on the team sheet. Think he's way off the pace. Don't like to pick on one player, but think he needs to pack it in we have much stronger players in his position.

Thought going forward we were alright but if you concede that many sloppy goals against a pretty good outfit like Dynamo. Your gonna loose.

Why are you surprised - he dropped Robles for TH after three clean sheets, and the similar defence looked very good - RM is picking names not players on merit!

 

[froggyted]

Sorry it was just a wordplay on your username.

Oops, sorry about that then.

 

[bainesontoast]

 

[sexualchocolate]

I've had time to reflect on it now and I have to say that was the most ridiculous set up by a manager I've ever seen, what the fcuk was he doing setting us up to go at them from the off, they were no great shakes at the back, obvious thing would have been to sit and hit them late on, absolute joke and as for alcaraz, writing was on the wall I'm afraid in the first leg, didn't think he could be worse, but he was...

 

[chewee]

Don't buy in to all the 'what ifs'

They scored 5 goals tonight, which ever way you try to dress that up it's not good enough. We took a goal lead in to the game, scored two away goals and still went out comfortably.

Frustrating thing is they were there for the taking, our forward play caused them trouble in both legs it's just a shame our defence was a complete shambles.

 

[TyphooToffee]

Or maybe he's just a positivist.

He needs to sleep on it and wake up a realist