Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[kithnou]

Zat, I hope this is posted in the deepest irony.

And the response?

 

[kithnou]

Gerrymandering the thread

@kithnou

47 posts in 97 pages without any personal attack on another member.

Long live that gerrymander.

 

[Clint Planet]

Partly yes, but mostly they got the anti-establishment vote.

Partly, not mostly. And a significant part of the so-called anti-estasblishment vote in the USA is the racist vote, the Pro-Life vote, the "blame-the-immigrants" vote. Demagogue stuff.

 

[Clint Planet]

BTW Frank Field voted with the Tories on the last welfare bill.

Quite.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Facebook in turmoil. Rebel workes having secret meetings cause Zuccerberg doesnt want to jump in panic wagon. (Liberals partly blaming Facebook of election loss)

 

[McBain]

47 posts in 97 pages without any personal attack on another member.

Long live that gerrymander.

Pipe down Con the Fruiterer

 

[McBain]

Facebook in turmoil. Rebel workes having secret meetings cause Zuccerberg doesnt want to jump in panic wagon. (Liberals partly blaming Facebook of election loss)

You better start practising your Hail Putin salute mate!

 

[TheFinnFan]

You better start practising your Hail Putin salute mate!

Why?

 

[dead_soft]

As a strong supporter of Brexit and weak advocate for Trump (he is an utter arsehole, but I love his anti-PC ness), I think you are wrong. Looking at it rationally, some of Corbyn's policies and positions include:

Socialist - an ideology that hasn't been voted in since 1970s and is failing worldwide
Supposed IRA sympathy, and Hamas + Hezbollah "friends"
Falklands discussion with Argentina (he visits the Argentine embassy and gives talks about this)
Stop The War chairman
Abolition of grammar schools
Pro-immigration
Pro-EU
Part of a liberal group of Islington metropolitan politicians out of touch with many of the disenfranchised working classes in the industrial North
Anti-Trident and refuses to press nuclear button
Shadow cabinet and party of jokes (Abbot, Thornberry, Livingstone, Vaz, etc)
Doesn't sing national anthem or wear red poppy without being forced to
Has a communist shadow chancellor who quotes Mao
No "shoot-to-kill" policy for terrorists
Anti-monarchy
Disliked by most of his party
Anti-bombing ISIS
Hypocritical - rebelled against the party whip more times than any other MP, then sacks those who go against him/calls for PLP unity

These views don't really remotely resonate with Middle England swing constituencies. Even if they agree with one or two of his ideas above, they won't vote for him because of the other ones. In contrast, Brexit and Trump promoted anti-immigration, nationalist policies, essentially the opposite of Corbyn. Labour need a 10% swing in GE2020 for a majority of one. That's before pro-Tory 2018 boundary changes which give them another 15 seat cushion. Meanwhile, polls (which have recently underestimated support for the right) have Tories in a record 10-16 point lead for a sitting government at this stage of the electoral cycle. In contrast, Miliband had a 5+ point lead at this stage.

Whilst I can see the parallels between Trump and Corbyn in terms of being outsiders/anti-establishment, the two aren't really similar. What drew people towards Trump will draw probably them away from Corbyn. You may disagree, and I will admit if I'm wrong, but I just can't see it.

What exactly do you mean by anti PC-ness? What terrible effects do you think 'Political Correctness' actually brings upon society that it needs challenging?

I'm no fan of Corbyn but you're essentially suggesting no one with left leaning views can ever succeed. Most of the stuff you've mentioned, 'National Anthem, friends of terrorists, Mao quoting' -is nonsense that's made into something that matters to whip up anti Corbyn feeling:

 

[McBain]

Why?

Its only a matter of time. Without NATO and a US trade deal you're on your own. Russia will just roll right in.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Its only a matter of time. Without NATO and a US trade deal you're on your own. Russia will just roll right in.

Nah, we have good relations with both US and Ruskies. But if they try something i'll just send me mar after Putin.

 

[deipnosophist]

Pipe down Con the Fruiterer

lol...that reference is a blast from the past!

 

[kithnou]

lol...that reference is a blast from the past!

And yet another unnecessary derogatory stereotypical reference aimed at me for passing a personal view on a candidate...

 

[deipnosophist]

And yet another unnecessary derogatory stereotypical reference aimed at me for passing a personal view on a candidate...

you know I like you mate and am actually sympathetic to your views in this debate...but I must confess to having a chuckle at that retro reference. That Aussie comedy show (can't recall its name), was very funny

 

[kithnou]

you know I like you mate and am actually sympathetic to your views in this debate...but I must confess to having a chuckle at that retro reference. That Aussie comedy show (can't recall its name), was very funny

yes it was a gem back in the day mate..."The Comedy Company"