Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Hardly anyone outside of the US will have a concept of what the actual feeling is on the ground for the last few years regarding Obama, Clinton and Trump. It's all from watching TV and reading the internet.

Imagine a Scouser being told by a yank to suck it up when Thatcher stole their milk.

I think most people my age were taught more or less the same thing in basic government/civics classes: the beauty of the three-branch system and the layers of bureaucracy is that it take so much effort to get stuff done that very little actually gets done. So the things that get done are (usually) big things that have broad support, and meddlers can't (usually) get much traction on bad policies.

That theory is going to be heavily tested in the next 4 years.
 
Some people still try to paint Racism as an equally-two-way-street. Yeah, right.


West Virginia official who called 'Michelle Obama an 'Ape in Heels' fired following outcry
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Michelle Obama

  • Nick Allen
15 NOVEMBER 2016 • 7:02 PM


Officials in an all-white part of West Virginia sparked outrage across America after referring to Michelle Obama as an "ape in heels".

The mayor of the town of Clay resigned and the director of a local government-funded agency was also removed from her job following the racist comment.

Pamela Ramsey Taylor, director of the Clay County Development Corp, which provides services to elderly and low-income residents, made the remark on Facebook.

She was celebrating Donald Trump's victory in the presidential election, and the elevation of Melania Trump to First Lady.

Taylor wrote: "It will be refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady in the White House. I'm tired of seeing a Ape in heels."

Beverly Whaling, the mayor of Clay, responded on Facebook by saying: "Just made my day Pam."

A petition calling for Whaling to be fired had received more than 121,000 signatures as of midday on Tuesday.

The mayor later resigned

Jason Hubbard, a member of the Clay town council, issued a statement condemning the "horrific" post and said "racial intolerance isn't what this community is about."

He apologised on behalf of the town to anyone who was offended, including Michelle Obama.

In her own apology the mayor denied her sentiments were racist:


She said: "I was referring to my day being made for change in the White House. I am truly sorry for any hard feeling this may have caused. Those who know me know that I'm not in any way racist."

Taylor, who has been placed on leave, said she had in “no way” intended to be racist and apologised for "any hurt my post may have caused".

The official claimed she had been referring to "my personal opinion of the attractiveness (of Mrs Obama) not the colour of the skin”.

She also claimed the backlash had become a "hate crime against me" and that she and her children had received death threats.


Taylor also said she was consulting lawyers to pursue legal action against people who had "slandered" her.

The town of Clay has a population of 491, none of whom are black, according to latest US Census figures.

Clay County has 9,000 people and 0.2 per cent of them are black.


Will be some time before we have a pair in the White House as classy as Barack and Michelle Obama.

Unless Michelle can be convinced to run in 2020.
 
Some people still try to paint Racism as an equally-two-way-street. Yeah, right.


West Virginia official who called 'Michelle Obama an 'Ape in Heels' fired following outcry
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109336148-Michelle-Obama-NEWS-xxlarge_trans++5yQLQqeH37t50SCyM4-zeANk0otr_6CEXAcpOBSblM8.jpg

Michelle Obama

  • Nick Allen
15 NOVEMBER 2016 • 7:02 PM


Officials in an all-white part of West Virginia sparked outrage across America after referring to Michelle Obama as an "ape in heels".

The mayor of the town of Clay resigned and the director of a local government-funded agency was also removed from her job following the racist comment.

Pamela Ramsey Taylor, director of the Clay County Development Corp, which provides services to elderly and low-income residents, made the remark on Facebook.

She was celebrating Donald Trump's victory in the presidential election, and the elevation of Melania Trump to First Lady.

Taylor wrote: "It will be refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady in the White House. I'm tired of seeing a Ape in heels."

Beverly Whaling, the mayor of Clay, responded on Facebook by saying: "Just made my day Pam."

A petition calling for Whaling to be fired had received more than 121,000 signatures as of midday on Tuesday.

The mayor later resigned

Jason Hubbard, a member of the Clay town council, issued a statement condemning the "horrific" post and said "racial intolerance isn't what this community is about."

He apologised on behalf of the town to anyone who was offended, including Michelle Obama.

In her own apology the mayor denied her sentiments were racist:


She said: "I was referring to my day being made for change in the White House. I am truly sorry for any hard feeling this may have caused. Those who know me know that I'm not in any way racist."

Taylor, who has been placed on leave, said she had in “no way” intended to be racist and apologised for "any hurt my post may have caused".

The official claimed she had been referring to "my personal opinion of the attractiveness (of Mrs Obama) not the colour of the skin”.

She also claimed the backlash had become a "hate crime against me" and that she and her children had received death threats.


Taylor also said she was consulting lawyers to pursue legal action against people who had "slandered" her.

The town of Clay has a population of 491, none of whom are black, according to latest US Census figures.

Clay County has 9,000 people and 0.2 per cent of them are black.


She's going to sue for slander is my favourite bit.
 
Will be some time before we have a pair in the White House as classy as Barack and Michelle Obama.

Unless Michelle can be convinced to run in 2020.

After the announcement of Steve Barron, I went on the Breitbart website to have a look. The comments on articles are eye opening to say the least. Not a lot of love for Obama and Michelle on them from people.
 
The issue of Brexit and Trump isn't the Right winning, it's the anti-establishment winning.

They are undoubtedly examples of anti-establishment action but whether they will "win" in the end is hugely debatable. I strongly suspect not since they're both examples of the privileged manipulating the mob to their own ends. Fascistic, really.

That would complete an amazing trio: Brexit, Trump and Corbyn.

You might as well lump Chelski and Man City with Leicester. Get a grip, will you.
 
After the announcement of Steve Barron, I went on the Breitbart website to have a look. The comments on articles are eye opening to say the least. Not a lot of love for Obama and Michelle on them from people.

I wonder why that is. Must be because they are both demonstrably horrid people, I suppose.
 
Aye, that's why it's important Corbyn wins too: that the Left also has the anti-establishment option. The media (and many lads on these boards) are doing their best to paint him as being rubbish...much like we were reading about Brexit/Trump. But many normal folk are with him...again, just like Brexit/Trump.


I'm still UK citizen, so my vote will go Corbyn. Long old way to go before the General Election, tho'.

As a strong supporter of Brexit and weak advocate for Trump (he is an utter arsehole, but I love his anti-PC ness), I think you are wrong. Looking at it rationally, some of Corbyn's policies and positions include:

Socialist - an ideology that hasn't been voted in since 1970s and is failing worldwide
Supposed IRA sympathy, and Hamas + Hezbollah "friends"
Falklands discussion with Argentina (he visits the Argentine embassy and gives talks about this)
Stop The War chairman
Abolition of grammar schools
Pro-immigration
Pro-EU
Part of a liberal group of Islington metropolitan politicians out of touch with many of the disenfranchised working classes in the industrial North
Anti-Trident and refuses to press nuclear button
Shadow cabinet and party of jokes (Abbot, Thornberry, Livingstone, Vaz, etc)
Doesn't sing national anthem or wear red poppy without being forced to
Has a communist shadow chancellor who quotes Mao
No "shoot-to-kill" policy for terrorists
Anti-monarchy
Disliked by most of his party
Anti-bombing ISIS
Hypocritical - rebelled against the party whip more times than any other MP, then sacks those who go against him/calls for PLP unity

These views don't really remotely resonate with Middle England swing constituencies. Even if they agree with one or two of his ideas above, they won't vote for him because of the other ones. In contrast, Brexit and Trump promoted anti-immigration, nationalist policies, essentially the opposite of Corbyn. Labour need a 10% swing in GE2020 for a majority of one. That's before pro-Tory 2018 boundary changes which give them another 15 seat cushion. Meanwhile, polls (which have recently underestimated support for the right) have Tories in a record 10-16 point lead for a sitting government at this stage of the electoral cycle. In contrast, Miliband had a 5+ point lead at this stage.

Whilst I can see the parallels between Trump and Corbyn in terms of being outsiders/anti-establishment, the two aren't really similar. What drew people towards Trump will draw probably them away from Corbyn. You may disagree, and I will admit if I'm wrong, but I just can't see it.
 
As a strong supporter of Brexit and weak advocate for Trump (he is an utter arsehole, but I love his anti-PC ness), I think you are wrong. Looking at it rationally, some of Corbyn's policies and positions include:

Socialist - an ideology that hasn't been voted in since 1970s and is failing worldwide
Supposed IRA sympathy, and Hamas + Hezbollah "friends"
Falklands discussion with Argentina (he visits the Argentine embassy and gives talks about this)
Stop The War chairman
Abolition of grammar schools
Pro-immigration
Pro-EU
Part of a liberal group of Islington metropolitan politicians out of touch with many of the disenfranchised working classes in the industrial North
Anti-Trident and refuses to press nuclear button
Shadow cabinet and party of jokes (Abbot, Thornberry, Livingstone, Vaz, etc)
Doesn't sing national anthem or wear red poppy without being forced to
Has a communist shadow chancellor who quotes Mao
No "shoot-to-kill" policy for terrorists
Anti-monarchy
Disliked by most of his party
Anti-bombing ISIS
Hypocritical - rebelled against the party whip more times than any other MP, then sacks those who go against him/calls for PLP unity

These views don't really remotely resonate with Middle England swing constituencies. Even if they agree with one or two of his ideas above, they won't vote for him because of the other ones. In contrast, Brexit and Trump promoted anti-immigration, nationalist policies, essentially the opposite of Corbyn. Labour need a 10% swing in GE2020 for a majority of one. That's before pro-Tory 2018 boundary changes which give them another 15 seat cushion. Meanwhile, polls (which have recently underestimated support for the right) have Tories in a record 10-16 point lead for a sitting government at this stage of the electoral cycle. In contrast, Miliband had a 5+ point lead at this stage.

Whilst I can see the parallels between Trump and Corbyn in terms of being outsiders/anti-establishment, the two aren't really similar. What drew people towards Trump will draw probably them away from Corbyn. You may disagree, and I will admit if I'm wrong, but I just can't see it.


Yep this is spot on.
 
As a strong supporter of Brexit and weak advocate for Trump (he is an utter arsehole, but I love his anti-PC ness), I think you are wrong. Looking at it rationally, some of Corbyn's policies and positions include:

Socialist - an ideology that hasn't been voted in since 1970s and is failing worldwide
Supposed IRA sympathy, and Hamas + Hezbollah "friends"
Falklands discussion with Argentina (he visits the Argentine embassy and gives talks about this)
Stop The War chairman
Abolition of grammar schools
Pro-immigration
Pro-EU
Part of a liberal group of Islington metropolitan politicians out of touch with many of the disenfranchised working classes in the industrial North
Anti-Trident and refuses to press nuclear button
Shadow cabinet and party of jokes (Abbot, Thornberry, Livingstone, Vaz, etc)
Doesn't sing national anthem or wear red poppy without being forced to
Has a communist shadow chancellor who quotes Mao
No "shoot-to-kill" policy for terrorists
Anti-monarchy
Disliked by most of his party
Anti-bombing ISIS
Hypocritical - rebelled against the party whip more times than any other MP, then sacks those who go against him/calls for PLP unity

These views don't really remotely resonate with Middle England swing constituencies. Even if they agree with one or two of his ideas above, they won't vote for him because of the other ones. In contrast, Brexit and Trump promoted anti-immigration, nationalist policies, essentially the opposite of Corbyn. Labour need a 10% swing in GE2020 for a majority of one. That's before pro-Tory 2018 boundary changes which give them another 15 seat cushion. Meanwhile, polls (which have recently underestimated support for the right) have Tories in a record 10-16 point lead for a sitting government at this stage of the electoral cycle. In contrast, Miliband had a 5+ point lead at this stage.

Whilst I can see the parallels between Trump and Corbyn in terms of being outsiders/anti-establishment, the two aren't really similar. What drew people towards Trump will draw probably them away from Corbyn. You may disagree, and I will admit if I'm wrong, but I just can't see it.

Good post. The trouble is I cannot see a many alternatives to Corbyn within the Labour party.

Frank Fields is the only labour politician I can think of.
 
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