Distin' New Chants

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Ok, past few days has seen a dispute in here, and I can actually see both sides.

Firstly, I agree with Reidy that kids shouldn't be having stuff like this thrown at them at the match. Also, some of the replies he's had have not been pleasant, and there has been no need for that.

On the other hand, I think we all need to be realistic about the chants that are already established, as many are really relatively harmless - it didn't do me any harm and won't deter me from taking my child once old enough.

What I would ask is that rather than have petty, tit-for-tat exchanges via this thread or through rep, could we just agree to disagree please, as some of the stuff reported has been more unpleasant that the chants themselves.

I'd agree.

If someone next to me was repeatedly screaming the C word at the ref when I was with my little cousin, for example, I'd have a word, but swearing in songs and in frustration at a decision, for example, is part of what makes up an atmosphere and you can't get rid of that. If your kid can't deal with a bit of swearing or doesn't understand they shouldn't be doing it then don't take them.

Having said that I haven't got kids so I could be way off really.

If folk want to lob stuff at me mate I can hand it back with interest if they like. If anyone has complained about any rep I've given btw then they also need to look at themselves sitting in their glasshouses with a Black Widow catty and a pile of stones.

I'm known for my outbursts & I'll be honest have been expecting a club letter telling me to calm it at times, so yeah swearing happens I accept that and even laugh at it, just not into having to explain to a young one (and my 6 y.o. will be going a few) what they mean about someone having a big knob and ramming it up the back of a blonde is all about, certainly don't want school ringing up to ask why they are repeating it there. I guess it comes down to what folk pass of as decent or morally acceptable behaviour really.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Reidy has a point. Everyone has a certain level of respect to maintain, especially at the match.

The age old argument of " ya pays ya money "etc may well interfere with the common logic of sitting inn the Family Enc and seeing fit to throw shouts like that.

Going the match isn't a licence to turn into a Divvy.

 

[Bluenose1995]

my own views on this I think kids should only be taken to games when they are old enough to "understand" chants, obviously we all want our kids to experience the match as young as possible but at the same time we have to appreciate the atmosphere at matches for what they are.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Reidy has a point. Everyone has a certain level of respect to maintain, especially at the match.

The age old argument of " ya pays ya money "etc may well interfere with the common logic of sitting inn the Family Enc and seeing fit to throw shouts like that.

Going the match isn't a licence to turn into a Divvy.

A bloke a cpl of rows back hits the C button in every sentence, thing is theres an arl lady in front of him (possibly in 80's) and he's just not arsed at all. As I've said, i know they'll hear stuff, but it doesn't need to become the norm at Goodison like it is across the park. As well as that I'd quite like the kids to be able to join in.

 

[Coach]

my own views on this I think kids should only be taken to games when they are old enough to "understand" the nature of the chants, obviously we all want our kids to experience the match as young as possible but at the same time we have to appreciate the atmosphere at matches for what they are. Was reading a celtic forum yesterday over them acting like cocks and whilst they are utter beauts they did however say who the English fans have become very tame and "middle class" complaining about things but.

I just don't get this. Is it a working class trait to be ill considerate to others or something?

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

I just don't get this. Is it a working class trait to be ill considerate to others or something?

I think it's the 'Thou must be a scall' ethos.

 

[Bluenose1995]

I just don't get this. Is it a working class trait to be ill considerate to others or something?

its not ill considerate football has a lot of banter and passion involved its been that way and always will be. My issue is people are quick to moan when half the fa cup final tickets get allocated to the prawn sandwich lot who have a little clap when each team scores, but also moan when your average joe calls the ref a prick when theirs kids sat nearby we cant have it both ways.

 

[The-Golden-Vision]

If folk want to lob stuff at me mate I can hand it back with interest if they like. If anyone has complained about any rep I've given btw then they also need to look at themselves sitting in their glasshouses with a Black Widow catty and a pile of stones.

I'm known for my outbursts & I'll be honest have been expecting a club letter telling me to calm it at times, so yeah swearing happens I accept that and even laugh at it, just not into having to explain to a young one (and my 6 y.o. will be going a few) what they mean about someone having a big knob and ramming it up the back of a blonde is all about, certainly don't want school ringing up to ask why they are repeating it there. I guess it comes down to what folk pass of as decent or morally acceptable behaviour really.

Don't flatter yourself, I didn't complain to anyone about rep.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

its not ill considerate football has a lot of banter and passion involved its been that way and always will be. My issue is people are quick to moan when half the fa cup final tickets get allocated to the prawn sandwich lot who have a little clap when each team scores, but also moan when your average joe calls the ref a prick when theirs kids sat nearby we cant have it both ways.

I don't we're saying that at all, in fact I'm 1 of the last to be able to say that as I reckon I probably called every ref last season one. Swearing is one thing but would you sit with 1 of your kids and start talking about sex with your mate, or not feel a touch uneasy if someone close by was ?

But then I'm also a stickler for teaching my kids correct grammar as well.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Don't flatter yourself, I didn't complain to anyone about rep.

I don't recall mentioning any names ? I just took it that Groucho could view rep being thrown around and that someone didn't appreciate getting some, especially some that was 'to the point.'

 

[Bluenose1995]

I don't we're saying that at all, in fact I'm 1 of the last to be able to say that as I reckon I probably called every ref last season one. Swearing is one thing but would you sit with 1 of your kids and start talking about sex with your mate, or not feel a touch uneasy if someone close by was ?

But then I'm also a stickler for teaching my kids correct grammar as well.

swearing for me is just as bad mate its why I don't and wouldn't take my kids to the game until they are a bit older. I'll admit I'm the worst for swearing but football being football that's going to happen same as a gang of men tanked up joking about sex its inevitable.

 

[The-Golden-Vision]

I don't recall mentioning any names ? I just took it that Groucho could view rep being thrown around and that someone didn't appreciate getting some, especially some that was 'to the point.'

Hahahahaha yeah right. We both know the real story anyway.

Goodnight all

 

[Groucho]

I don't recall mentioning any names ? I just took it that Groucho could view rep being thrown around and that someone didn't appreciate getting some, especially some that was 'to the point.'

I was simply trying to diffuse the situation.

I can see both sides. I agree with your point mate, but I also see the other side of the argument here. I too am a parent of a young child and wouldn't be happy to explain the finer points of some chants, yet I also understand that people will also want to take the mickey out of a recent situation and that on occasion, their wit may contain some unsavoury elements.

I certainly don't condone Distin's behaviour, nor was I criticising anyone in particular - just maybe saying accept some of the funny chants for what they are - a laugh. The vast majority aren't going to be repeated out loud. This isn't a personal criticism of any particular member.

I don't want people having a go at Reidy, and I don't want Reidy having a go at people, in essence.

 

[Coach]

its not ill considerate football has a lot of banter and passion involved its been that way and always will be. My issue is people are quick to moan when half the fa cup final tickets get allocated to the prawn sandwich lot who have a little clap when each team scores, but also moan when your average joe calls the ref a prick when theirs kids sat nearby we cant have it both ways.

I don't understand - in what way is it not ill considerate?

You talk about not having it both ways but as far as I can see half the cup final tickets going to the "prawn sandwich brigade" has nothing to do with consideration for others but is simply down to money. Once again you seem to be making the point that it is better off people who think about others and working class people who don't give a sh it.

Sorry but most working class people I know and grew up with have better morals than you attribute in your crass generalisation.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

I don't understand - in what way is it not ill considerate?

You talk about not having it both ways but as far as I can see half the cup final tickets going to the "prawn sandwich brigade" has nothing to do with consideration for others but is simply down to money. ONce agian you seem to be making the point that it is better off people who think about others and working class people who don't give a sh it.

I find that in the main it's the opposite way around USUALLY.