2025/26 David Moyes

[Curtis]

Did he lose purposely, so he Can get AWB and Bowen?

I don't think he has to concoct a specific plot to lose his poor tactics and natural aversion to rotate makes losing happen

 

[Igrok]

West ham is a good predictor where Moyes teams eventually end… dont make same mistake again…

 

[Bluebonic]

Boyland is one of the best Everton reporters around , he mentioned Moyes approach was to not develop youth players but to try win games with his preferred aged players didn't say it was an effective application. His description of how we played and especially how we setup against spurs was very scathing

I agree, however, it must be counter-balanced that at no point did he remark on the size of Moyes tits! That and his cocky’s hut deserve more media attention than they’re getting. Minus the white hair and the gollum eyes his frontage is looking remarkably similar to my birds!

 

[Curtis]

I agree, however, it must be counter-balanced that at no point did he remark on the size of Moyes tits! That and his cocky’s hut deserve more media attention than they’re getting. Minus the white hair and the gollum eyes his frontage is looking remarkably similar to my birds!

Hahahaha

 

[Swartzy]

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That is one seriously ugly way of looking at football. That isn't a game, it's homework..

 

[Curtis]

Yep. But its the thought and mentality behind that thinking. Along with not changing that thinking when its obviously not working.

Thats the biggest worry

That was the similar issue with Carlo in regards to the mentality (no way comparing Carlos pedigree to Moyes ) he didn't really want to build anything and Moyes at least during his first stint had to build to a certain degree not typically with youth but at least younger players as he it was crucial for survival as we had scarce resources.

 

[Igrok]

Madness having the same manager in 2026 as we did in 2002

Monumental regress…mediocrity at its best…

 

[ValBlue]

That is one seriously ugly way of looking at football. That isn't a game, it's homework..

This is the Moyes view that is killing us though. All the ‘elite recruitment’ teams use this ‘ugly way of looking at football’ and they’re clearly better than us at sporting players and developing them.

Maybe if Moyes did care even a little bit about technical data instead of the eye test (aka how tall a player is, in Moyes special version of the eye test), we’d have better players.

Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth all very publicly credit the heavy use of data that drives their recruitment approach. Clinging onto the style from the 70s is killing us.

 

[Ray Atteveld's Kit]

I didn't say I know "how much" they're improving.... just saying that generally young players do improve with time. I assume he amd his staff do see them in training every day, and judges on that and when they have stepped in too.

I don't profess to be the best judge of players, but I don't think that I have seen too much to suggest that any of the youngsters would've regularly displaced the 1st teamers last season. Yes, substitution opportunities are a key factor too, but can't say I've seen any analysis showing how we have that depth of quality or ability to change formation etc. Seen some sides literally change out half their team and still have a balanced side, we can't do that.

So which of the 2 options do you think it is:

1. Moyes and his staff were unable to elevate the talented youngsters and mould them in to first teamers
2. He was able to develop them, but preferred his experienced options

Because whichever way you want to try and spin it, he hasn’t done a good job has he?

 

[Dymak]

You’re all missing the real danger here. If Moyes was just to get something like an 8th placed finish that qualifies for Europe next season, it will be sold to everyone as some kind of miracle, and he will be rewarded with a further three year contract extension!

 

[Nymzee]

You’re all missing the real danger here. If Moyes was just to get something like an 8th placed finish that qualifies for Europe next season, it will be sold to everyone as some kind of miracle, and he will be rewarded with a further three year contract extension!

You're right, we are always in Europe anyway, why reward that.

 

[Drico]

You’re all missing the real danger here. If Moyes was just to get something like an 8th placed finish that qualifies for Europe next season, it will be sold to everyone as some kind of miracle, and he will be rewarded with a further three year contract extension!

Yup, very true.

Finishing 13th is a dark cloud - but not one without silver linings. This dinosaur had a real chance to extend his tenure into something triassic. Now, we merely await the comet.

 

[riddick]

So which of the 2 options do you think it is:

1. Moyes and his staff were unable to elevate the talented youngsters and mould them in to first teamers
2. He was able to develop them, but preferred his experienced options

Because whichever way you want to try and spin it, he hasn’t done a good job has he?

Let's not forget the slightly important part he left out:

Younger players tend to improve... when they play. They do NOT improve literally sitting on the bench watching worse players or others out of position in their preferred place.

 

[ValBlue]

You’re all missing the real danger here. If Moyes was just to get something like an 8th placed finish that qualifies for Europe next season, it will be sold to everyone as some kind of miracle, and he will be rewarded with a further three year contract extension!

If we finished in Europe, a competent board would have still replaced him. Proactively get your ‘aspirational’ manager in place to lead from then on. They had a big talk of transition and stability. Surely getting into Europe would have met both of those objectives?

Of course that wouldn’t have happened anyway because the board and owners are just as useless and Moyes himself.

 

[Swartzy]

This is the Moyes view that is killing us though. All the ‘elite recruitment’ teams use this ‘ugly way of looking at football’ and they’re clearly better than us at sporting players and developing them.

Maybe if Moyes did care even a little bit about technical data instead of the eye test (aka how tall a player is, in Moyes special version of the eye test), we’d have better players.

Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth all very publicly credit the heavy use of data that drives their recruitment approach. Clinging onto the style from the 70s is killing us.

What recruitment teams do has nothing to do with my point though, they can sit their digging out data all day long and probably enjoy it.
for an actual football fan, nah, that isn't a pretty sight.

Using that is fine in the work place, using that in your general footy chat

Data - Good for the club
Eyes - Good for me