Hindsight does seem to be frequently used on here.
We didn't. If we had it might have papered over some of the obvious and mind boggling decisions that Moyes has made.
However to even consider it is a bit Sean Dyche ....." It's not too bad if you add in a couple of wins"
And it is like the painting in Ghostbusters 2, possessing anyone who stares long enough at his jowelly chops.
widnesblue
Player Valuation: £25m
That’s true but my point is, how badly Everton have been run prior to Moyes coming back and new owners coming in. They wouldn’t expect miracles in such a short term around.
We aren’t just playing catch up on the pitch to clubs, we are playing catch up to them off the pitch too.
Moyes taking the TalkSport pundit job for the World Cup just adds to my concerns about him staying.
The World Cup lasts for 39 days, that is a lot of time not working on our issues and he’ll probably expect a couple of weeks of holiday off on top of it too.
The finances of our club aren’t great and losing out the last few games has literally costs us millions, if he wants to be manager he should be concentrating on us not padding his retirement with punditry.
The World Cup lasts for 39 days, that is a lot of time not working on our issues and he’ll probably expect a couple of weeks of holiday off on top of it too.
The finances of our club aren’t great and losing out the last few games has literally costs us millions, if he wants to be manager he should be concentrating on us not padding his retirement with punditry.
I'll tell you what. I'm starting to think that our fanbase isn't happy with David Moyes.
I think we should all unite and phone in everyday to praise his media work.
Your new home awaits
widnesblue
Player Valuation: £25m
No I don’t trust him, his methods are out dated massively. Clubs that are above us. They do t just sign players off the eye anymore, they use all kinds of data and stats when bringing players in. Clubs have had that in place for a while, we’ve only just recruited people to do that now.
I also believe if we had the stats of an unknown player from the French league whose stats were through the roof, Moyes would sign say a John Stones instead because he’s played in the prem. His methods, formations and tactics are out dated.
I don’t want him here next season cos if we are to progress, it needs to start now. I don’t think it’s going to happen though! The owners are capitalists, they aren’t here to make us successful, they are here to make money. It’s easier to get Roma in the champions league in Italy than it will be to get Everton into Europe through the prem.
For me, I’d go get Sebastian Hoeneb tomorrow and give him a war chest to build a team. But we won’t and we will spend around £100m this summer and be in a similar situation next year.
And given the passivity of the HD crowd and lack of any venting of spleen towards the manager I'm starting to think that the reaction on here may not be representative of all Evertonians, which I find incredible.
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £40m
I think the thing is Matty, depending on the targets set by the club (which I’d expect to be Europe next season), if things aren’t going well, yes they would get rid, but obviously we do not know who will be available to replace him which means we may have to shop in the charity store for a replacement.
At least now, we know of two potential candidates right on our doorstep (and there’ll be others in Europe) so the question is do we think based on this season, Moyes is likely to get Europe for us next season? I don’t. Change now and there can also be sonde form of agreement as to targets because I wouldn’t trust Moyes to play whoever we buy.
widnesblue
Player Valuation: £25m
I agree with you, not disputing anything you’ve said. Just think we need to get realistic as a fanbase.
In the summer, we all know what we will end up with and it won’t be good enough.
Are any of us truly looking forward to this summer? It’s miserable, predictable, and tiresome.
IF ambition was to be shown, how excited would we all suddenly be watching the World Cup and looking out for transfer news, knowing we’d just recruited a talented young manager with a reputation for playing attractive football, who would be backed this summer to bring in players to fit his style of football?
We’d all be buzzing! It’d make the long drawn out off season bearable and we’d all be intrigued and excited to get back to the HDS in August full with renewed hope and optimism.
As it is, we’re all currently dreading the thought of watching the same dire, dour anti football cr@p we’ve just been forced to sit through for 9 months!!
For the love of god, PLEASE show some ambition at this football club and give us something to cling on to for the next few weeks and months.
Has he gone yet? 24hrs since the last ko of the season, seems too long
Not giving the younger players minutes at the start of the season was understandable - the core of the team was playing OK and they needed time to get used to a new country, new team and the physicality of the league.
Them not even getting many minutes in the last game of the season, when we’d been letting in goals for fun and most of the regulars looked to be running on fumes is a glaring example poor management and an admission that in a season of coaching he still didn’t trust them and that he was out of ideas of how to fix issues short of yet more new recruits.
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £40m
Miracles? TFG and the Board may want to ask Sunderland about them then. Championship / league 1 squad but they have built that up in 12 months only having been promoted through the play offs. Yes they spent more which is right given their squad would not have been anywhere near as good as ours. 12 MONTHS!!!
