2025/26 David Moyes

[jceverton]

See I disagree with a bit of this, we spent £113m in the summer, it wasn’t all about improving the team, it was about having a squad in the first place. Losing 12 players last summer was a massive loss to any squad. Some players weren’t big loses but some where going into the new season.

I wouldn’t say the squad was in a great shape in any means that you could add some players in the summer and improve massively in one window.

We had one goal keeper going into this summer, we had to sign two keepers in the summer.
The full backs situation was dire going into this season - Coleman, Patterson and Mykolenko were the 3 full backs on the books starting pre season. Coleman should have retired, Patterson isn’t good enough, Mykolenko isn’t good enough.
Centre backs Tarkowski, Branthwaite and Keane. Had to offer Keane a new deal cos we didn’t have a great deal of money to spend to get someone better in.
Centre midfielders, we had Garner, Gana and Tim as options in pre season.
Wingers - N’Diaye and McNeil going into this season with. McNeil is a decent player for the PL but he isn’t going to get us up the table.
CF - we had Beto and that was it. He works hard but apart from that he is pony.

The summer recruitment was key last summer and we didn’t get it right.

We made 8 permanent signings last summer in
Alcarez
Barfy
Aznou
Tavers
King
Dewsbury-Hall
Dibling
And some kid from Charlton.

We loaned in
Grealish
George
Rohl

This we had a good squad to build on is a load of rubbish. Spending £113m in the summer wasn’t enough and won’t be enough again this summer.

I said we had a functional squad to build on, so you're saying stuff I never said. We all knew the squad issues were due to the financial constraints we were operating under. We all knew the major issues, two new full backs who could play in starting 11, a defensive midfielder, two wide players at least one of which needed to go into the starting eleven and a starting centre forward and preferably another back up forward. Giving Keane another years contract as 4th choice centre half then would be fair enough. We get those sorted then we've got makings of a decent squad and a better starting eleven. We got no starting full backs, no starting centre forward, no starting right winger, no back up centre forward and no defensive midfielder. The fundamental issue was the way we spent the money in the summer to address the weaknesses we had and Moyes failure to strengthen the starting eleven.

 

[Swartzy]

Europe could be exceptionally hard next season. Surely Chelsea, Newcastle and Spurs won't be as bad. There's no guarantee it goes to 8th place like it did this time around.

None of those teams have Europe to deal with either.
Spurs and Chelsea do need serious clear outs but they will still be an attraction to players.

 

[ToffeeScot]

None of those teams have Europe to deal with either.
Spurs and Chelsea do need serious clear outs but they will still be an attraction to players.

They will both have elite managers too - Alonso and De Zerbi.

 

[Mickey]

The fact he couldn't even incorporate youth to start for the final dead rubber match, does not bode well for younger players next season

If I was an agent with a talented up and coming young player I would never send him to Everton under Moyes. Seeing how Dibling and Aznou's careers have been damaged I'd look to another club that develops.

 

[Swartzy]

You're knocking it out the ball park today mate.

He's had 18months to prepare

 

[Ray Atteveld's Kit]

The flip side of your logic is that there's no risk sticking with Moyes. Let's just take a step back and look what he did at West Ham in the cold hard light of day. He spent over £500 million and left an ageing, unbalanced squad, lacking a centre forward, and a squad on high wages. He had multiple big money signings who didn't work out. That's the risk in sticking with Moyes, he could ultimately leave us in a worse position in the medium term. Effectively because of Thelwell and Purdys working miracles we had a functional squad, on fairly low wages that we could build on when we had money to spend. In short they gave us a financial reset and a platform to build on. What happened then is Moyes blew £120m plus and didn't improve the team. The risk now is that we let him do exactly the same this summer. If we do then the stable financial platform we had to build on will have been wasted by Moyes and the club. That's a clear risk and one I wouldn't be taking.

It was interesting to hear Moyes complaining that players didn’t want to come to Everton as we didn’t have Europe. Really, or was it more they didn’t want to stagnate their development working under a dinosaur minded manager?
What promising creative player will look at us as a great next step in their career?

 

[Iana]

Somewhere within the football club there's a big painting of Bill Kenwright that everyone goes to for inspiration.

“The picture of Bill Kenwright” is a long lost follow-up novel to “Dorian Gray” by Oscar Wilde that disappeared at the time of his arrest.

It has been recently re-discovered in the cheese room at the Hill Dickinson stadium.

 

[Davideeyore]

It was interesting to hear Moyes complaining that players didn’t want to come to Everton as we didn’t have Europe. Really, or was it more they didn’t want to stagnate their development working under a dinosaur minded manager?
What promising creative player will look at us as a great next step in their career?

Regardless, Moyes / Everton know what's coming in the summer window. "You're not in Europe". Nice one.

 

[jamieni]

It was interesting to hear Moyes complaining that players didn’t want to come to Everton as we didn’t have Europe. Really, or was it more they didn’t want to stagnate their development working under a dinosaur minded manager?
What promising creative player will look at us as a great next step in their career?

I suspect a lot of it had to do with the points deductions and to outsiders I’m sure we seemed like a basket case of a club which was constantly flirting with relegation and financial issues. No European footy may be part but could also have been a convenient excuse.

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

It was interesting to hear Moyes complaining that players didn’t want to come to Everton as we didn’t have Europe. Really, or was it more they didn’t want to stagnate their development working under a dinosaur minded manager?
What promising creative player will look at us as a great next step in their career?

Indeed. Last summer you could, with a straight face, say we were on the up. Tell players we wanted them to be part of a real push, and results since Moyes came in showed the potential. And tell them we had Grealish coming in as a sign of intent. All true.

Be harder to tell a good story this summer, not just because of the last 2 months results. The football is horrendous and archaic with no obvious patterns. Terrible youth development. Dibling and Aznou may not deserve minutes and may be crap all week, but potential incomings don’t listen to that. They just see zero minutes.

What are we going to tell them? We’ve made changes to Club View and McNeill is leaving??

 

[kiss the crest]

Dino Dave

that's his new name

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Is he still here then after that end to the season?
What’s our motto again?

 

[Groucho]

This we had a good squad to build on is a load of rubbish. Spending £113m in the summer wasn’t enough and won’t be enough again this summer.

I don’t think it’s realised quite how much of a reset we have been required to do and are still amidst.

I agree simply aiming for top half isn’t enough, we want Europe and trophies of course for any season to count as a success but I feel a little more patience is required.

We need to be a bit less bipolar as a fan base. Rather than <current manager> in/out, just ‘do better Everton’. The managerial merry go round is a big part of how we ended up in that situation in the first place.

Not knocking the guy personally, but the sheer amount of money the club threw at Marco Silva alone in bonuses and wages was enough to almost break the club. That is one single guy, never mind the others.

We don’t need a return to that at least.

 

[Ray Atteveld's Kit]

I suspect a lot of it had to do with the points deductions and to outsiders I’m sure we seemed like a basket case of a club which was constantly flirting with relegation and financial issues. No European footy may be part but could also have been a convenient excuse.

I think it was an excuse, but more to swerve working under Moyes. Don’t think he knows how to connect with/motivate younger players any more, if he ever did.
His referring to early twenty year olds like Tim as ‘boys’ is also illuminating, not to mention highly disrespectful.

 

[Groucho]

His referring to early twenty year olds like Tim as ‘boys’ is also illuminating, not to mention highly disrespectful.

I think that’s just a Scottish thing, I don’t read too much into that. He donesn’t call Tarks and them “men”.