2025/26 David Moyes

[Bluebonic]

Dino Dave

that's his new name

Us pre-season once he’s bough Soucek and Wilson from West Ham.

 

[Swartzy]

100 pages since kick off

 

[anton66]

1st game next season - away to Lampard's Coventry...you heard it here first erm second

Anybody care to guess the score?
He's my guess - it'll end in 0

Will it be a Monday night?

 

[Ray Atteveld's Kit]

I think that’s just a Scottish thing, I don’t read too much into that. He donesn’t call Tarks and them “men”.

It’s absolutely fine as a plural, but when discussing individuals he prone to calling some of them “the boy”. Could be wrong, but to me it betrays his view of young players being a different category to the senior pros which spills over in to his team selection/treatment of youth

 

[Groucho]

It’s absolutely fine as a plural, but when discussing individuals he prone to calling some of them “the boy”. Could be wrong, but to me it betrays his view of young players being a different category to the senior pros which spills over in to his team selection/treatment of youth

Personally I think too much is being read there.

 

[MondayHater]

It will start 0-0

 

[Ray Atteveld's Kit]

Personally I think too much is being read there.

Fair enough. I don’t imagine that you wouldn’t end up in a HR meeting in any other industry if you spoke like that but football is a law unto itself! Still think the headmaster like tone jars with the mindset of young people today but just my tuppence worth.

 

[tommytowne]

Two of my favourite threads in one here encapsulated by the respected Phil McNulty writing in his column for BBC in reviewing his forecasts for the season just finished.
Finishes off with the biggest mystery of Evertons season being the almost complete disappearance of £40m Tyler Dibling. Naturally following on with will TFG want to trust him with the kitty.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I don’t think it’s realised quite how much of a reset we have been required to do and are still amidst.

I agree simply aiming for top half isn’t enough, we want Europe and trophies of course for any season to count as a success but I feel a little more patience is required.

We need to be a bit less bipolar as a fan base. Rather than <current manager> in/out, just ‘do better Everton’. The managerial merry go round is a big part of how we ended up in that situation in the first place.

Not knocking the guy personally, but the sheer amount of money the club threw at Marco Silva alone in bonuses and wages was enough to almost break the club. That is one single guy, never mind the others.

We don’t need a return to that at least.

The manager merry go round was a combination of bad appointments - Allardyce, Koeman and especially Benitez - and some absolutely diabolical recruitment in the early Moshiri years - Bolasie for 30m, the 4 x no 10s signed in 1 window, the nonsense about selling Lukaku and spreading the goals, not signing a competent right back since we paid 60 grand to Sligo Rovers. I could go on and on and spend my entire bank holiday with examples.

Changing manager to get the right man is not something to be feared. It's something we have to do. Nothing changes until we have the right leadership structure in place- that means ambitious and proactive ownership, talented and forward thinking recruitment, and a head coach / manager who will make players better and create standards in the dressing room that haven't been there during my entire Everton supporting life.

All that takes time but the longer we go in the wrong direction with the wrong plans and personnel, the more difficult it will become. Backing Moyes with short term fixes on big money only to then replace him in 12 months, would be right up there with all the illogical short sighted decisions this club has made.

 

[Groucho]

Bu

All that takes time but the longer we go in the wrong direction with the wrong plans and personnel, the more difficult it will become.

Sadly that is a total impossibility now.

New manager wins three then loses one? SACK THEM. Two consecutive away draws? GET THEM OUT OF MY CLUB. It’s honestly anti-productive.

People want absolutely instant success and are simply not prepared to be patient. Either that or it’s loads of cases of “empty cans rattle the most”.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Bu


Sadly that is a total impossibility now.

New manager wins three then loses one? SACK THEM. Two consecutive away draws? GET THEM OUT OF MY CLUB. It’s honestly anti-productive.

People want absolutely instant success and are simply not prepared to be patient. Either that or it’s loads of cases of “empty cans rattle the most”.

Most people will be patient if they can see a plan and they can see a willingness across the club to get better

Seeing the CEO patting himself on the back as the season falls apart does not help.

Seeing the manager try the same failing tactics and selection every week does not help. Seeing the manager say he just doesn't understand how people could be frustrated, just adds to the disillusionment.

Patience is only the right attitude if there is tangible signs of progress. Patience when things are falling apart is arguably closer to negligence. The club need to give people hope because following this club has become a joyless experience.

 

[widnesblue]

I said we had a functional squad to build on, so you're saying stuff I never said. We all knew the squad issues were due to the financial constraints we were operating under. We all knew the major issues, two new full backs who could play in starting 11, a defensive midfielder, two wide players at least one of which needed to go into the starting eleven and a starting centre forward and preferably another back up forward. Giving Keane another years contract as 4th choice centre half then would be fair enough. We get those sorted then we've got makings of a decent squad and a better starting eleven. We got no starting full backs, no starting centre forward, no starting right winger, no back up centre forward and no defensive midfielder. The fundamental issue was the way we spent the money in the summer to address the weaknesses we had and Moyes failure to strengthen the starting eleven.

What functional squad did we have to build on? Pickford, Branthwaite, Tarkowski, Garner, Gana, O’Brien and N’Diaye? That’s 7 players who were the only good players at the club. That’s not a functional squad, it’s far from it.

 

[Swartzy]

Soucek just put out a statement, sounds like he isn't looking to jump, though he wasn't going to say different after yesterday.
hope he's loyal.

 

[marsh]

Has he gone yet?

 

[Tom Hughes]

You Sir, are on another planet.

Planet delusion.

Not at all, delusion was thinking that we were that good to start with. I just didn't get carried away by notions of grandeur because we managed to keep pace with the large chasing-pack, up to very recently, with a few quality players shining occasionally.

I think we were 15th biggest spend this year, and after 5 yrs of lowest net spend in the league. That normally does not a great team make, especially after losing 2 of the few quality players half-way through, one in midfield and one in defence.... At very best, we're half-decent, at our worst we're pretty poor and clearly disjointed, probably averaging out at "workmanlike" imo.

Most squads around us are better quality and more balanced.... that's what often happens when you spend more money and have greater managerial stability for longer periods. Frustrating? Yes, but that's football.

I'm sure if they hadn't been here already, there would now be lots of clamour for Silva or Lampard based on their recent performances....(and perhaps still justifiably) but we tried them already, and the point is, without sustained funding/team-building over more windows, we have already seen the outcome for them, which would lead to further clamour for the next flavour of the month manager..... ad infinitum till we either hit gold or get relegated.