Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
It's fair the spend brings expectations, my argument is whether the expectations people are bringing are out of proportion for the level of investment and I definitely feel that expecting a European place out of a net spend of 12-14 million in five years is a strap too far for this squad this year.
He absolutely should finish top half.
So far, he has improved the league position. If he finishes in 9th I'd say that's probably a fair achievement for the investment.
You fancy answering my question or
He stated he would look in the championship Barry would struggle there imo !
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
It's interesting Sunderland are above us on that list and yet everyone is fuming that they knocked us out of the cup and are having a good season.
Well, shouldn't they be based on this?
What about Thomas Frank's Spurs and that net spend?
Very interesting stuff.
Well it's just a turn of phrase?
I could grit my teeth and get through the last couple of seasons on the basis that I wanted to go the new stadium, and I believed the new owners could give us a fresh start, with a new philosophy and a manager who had new ideas and breathed a bit of life into the club. I've ticked the stadium off now, and instead of the fresh start we got almost the exact opposite - the oldest manager in the league returning for a second spell after 11 trophyless years here before, and a continuation of the dull, old school style of football that has become our trademark. The context of the conversation when I joined it was people losing hope if things carried on like they are for a couple more years, that's what I agreed with. Your later posts seem to be taking that context away for some reason.
smileychap
Player Valuation: £15m
Great post that validates the job Dycheball and Moyes did last season and previously.The problem with this analysis is it assumes we had a similar level of net spend happening outside of last summer when in reality that was the first positive net spend for five years.
Looking at one window and ignoring how the squad was already ransacked and starved of reinvestment ignores all of that important context, especially when this being used to propose we should be competitive against teams we had a higher net spend than last year while selectively ignoring the fact they all had higher net spends than us for the four years previous.
When you actually look at the last five years we are 18th for net spend.
18) Everton five-year net spend: £-12.13m
25/26: £-101.87m
24/25: £28.17m (13th)
23/24: £36.23m (15th)
22/23: £21.7m (17th)
21/22: £5.56m (16th)
Man City leapfrog Liverpool in net spend table with January splurge
Forget the league table, it's all about the Premier League net spend table. And neither Man City nor Liverpool are in top five.www.football365.com
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Though I bet none of you would be happy with us finishing 18th.
It doesn't justify the mess of the last two windows. The lack of attacking FB is appalling, gambling huge sums in Jack and the longevity of Seamus.
Blind arrogance.
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
It wasn't meant to justify the last two windows it was meant to justify the fact that we aren't going to automatically compete for Europe because we spent money for the first time in five years.
I think there's probably going to be a much wider selection of managers available once the season's finished, and it gives them time to be sounding out/scouting replacements.
That'd be the best way to do it in my view. Problem is, I'm not sure I trust that they are and I suspect they'll let Moyes see out his contract, which would be very depressing.
smileychap
Player Valuation: £15m
I would've agreed season start, and in fact said I'd even ship the cups for an outside run at Europe because of what it offers for player recruitment - and what looked like a very open table...
But the manner of the recent displays, and upcoming games is a big test for Moyes now and will bring scrutiny of business done.
It was the first FA cup tie at the new ground
Everton were comprehensively outplayed
We eventually put an untried kid on the wing (out of position, ofcourse)
He did really well so we never saw him again
We fluked our way to extratime then missed all our penalties.
I think it's reasonable to be fuming about that.
Forget the spending- It's the style of football & team selections lately - DM played better football with last year's team !
I have been supportive of David Moyes, I have absolutely no doubt that if we had stuck with Sean Dyche we would’ve been relegated. When I look back at some of the people who have managed us in recent years then David Moyes is in a different class. I also think that the decision to bring him in was inspired, he was the perfect solution to an extremely difficult situation.
Now he has moved us on to a different position, we are not the basket case we were. We now need someone to take us forward, someone with modern thinking and a desire to win games and not the don’t lose mentality we seem to have now, even though we are losing. I would say that it matters little if we get someone new or whoever that person is if we don’t bring in talented players, a centre forward, a fullback, a winger and a quality defensive midfielder.
The best manager in the world can’t win matches consistently if you can’t score goals.
Now he has moved us on to a different position, we are not the basket case we were. We now need someone to take us forward, someone with modern thinking and a desire to win games and not the don’t lose mentality we seem to have now, even though we are losing. I would say that it matters little if we get someone new or whoever that person is if we don’t bring in talented players, a centre forward, a fullback, a winger and a quality defensive midfielder.
The best manager in the world can’t win matches consistently if you can’t score goals.
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