2025/26 David Moyes

[blueboy72]

Thing is though gents, I understood it when we had the likes of Demarai Gray, Jack Harrison, Jesper Lindstrom and we didn't have a pot to piss in to improve that. In fact, I'd routinely joke that our front 3 were are all from recently relegated teams;



... but we've spent a few bob since, and we've currently scored less at this stage of the season than we did in Dyche's full season.

Give Moyes full backs who can cross a half way line, some pace out wide and the striker he wanted in Liam Delap and we score more goals. But I still think he's getting less goals from this team than he should.

But it's certainly not a recent issue - I mean, Thomas Frank's Brentford scored more goals in the Prem last season than we've ever managed in it's history.

Wow what a mad last stat. He keeps forgetting to mention in last west ham season when they scored 60 goals, get him a statue next to Bobby moore They conceded 74. Only 5 teams had a worse goal difference

 

[Gilbert..]

Didn’t you criticise Bournemouth for conceding goals ?? And all they try and do is out score the opposition lol
Imagine watching a team that tries to out score the opposition, what sorcery is this

Funny thing is for a team that concede they have a minus 2 goal difference so far this season, same as us. After losing 3 of their back 4 and their top goal scorer 6 games ago

i praise them for their goals scored. And point out they concede a lot. As i point out that Everton are vica versa. Dont score enough. dont let in many. Isnt that the basis of football. Try and score. Try not to concede lol. I mean its not rocket science is it. Every team strives for it.

 

[Efcjake]

Thing is though gents, I understood it when we had the likes of Demarai Gray, Jack Harrison, Jesper Lindstrom and we didn't have a pot to piss in to improve that. In fact, I'd routinely joke that our front 3 were are all from recently relegated teams;



... but we've spent a few bob since, and we've currently scored less at this stage of the season than we did in Dyche's full season.

Give Moyes full backs who can cross a half way line, some pace out wide and the striker he wanted in Liam Delap and we score more goals. But I still think he's getting less goals from this team than he should.

But it's certainly not a recent issue - I mean, Thomas Frank's Brentford scored more goals in the Prem last season than we've ever managed in it's history.

The only improvement to the first team currently that Grealish is out for the season is KDH. Nobody else was signed and improved the first team.

Maybe George and Harrison Armstrong are better than Harrison and Lindstrom but so far they've not contributed anything.

The money that was spent was spent poorly.

Thomas Frank's (LOL) Brentford had Wissa and Mbeumo. We have Ndiaye and KDH who are a level below those.

Oh and Thierno Barry ffs

 

[Efcjake]

The problem is beyond that.

Just like it was with Calvert-Lewin who has 10 league goals at the moment - he wouldn't have them same goals here, because, well, this;

I think a different striker would make a massive difference personally.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Wow what a mad last stat. He keeps forgetting to mention in last west ham season when they scored 60 goals, get him a statue next to Bobby more They conceded 74. Only 5 teams had a worse goal difference

More than West Ham have ever conceded in their entire top flight history.

 

[OzarkBlue]

I've gotten to where I dread the lineup announcement each week.

 

[blueboy72]

i praise them for their goals scored. And point out they concede a lot. As i point out that Everton are vica versa. Dont score enough. dont let in many. Isnt that the basis of football. Try and score. Try not to concede lol. I mean its not rocket science is it. Every team strives for it.

But teams that score will consistently finish higher than teams that don’t.

 

[Lanolin]

The only improvement to the first team currently that Grealish is out for the season is KDH. Nobody else was signed and improved the first team.

Maybe George and Harrison Armstrong are better than Harrison and Lindstrom but so far they've not contributed anything.

The money that was spent was spent poorly.

Thomas Frank's (LOL) Brentford had Wissa and Mbeumo. We have Ndiaye and KDH who are a level below those.

Oh and Thierno Barry ffs

But without turning it into a circular argument, Moyes is responsible for transfers according to literally everybody at the club who's spoken about it. We can't just say that £100m of what we spent doesn't count because they've turned out not to be very good can we, that's not how it works.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I think a different striker would make a massive difference personally.

As would some full backs for balance, pace outwide and playing with a bit of intensity.

Because;

• Stat Check: Only once in the last 18 league games have Everton recorded an Expected Goals (xG) in open-play of +1.0.

 

[Efcjake]

But without turning it into a circular argument, Moyes is responsible for transfers according to literally everybody at the club who's spoken about it. We can't just say that £100m of what we spent doesn't count because they've turned out not to be very good can we, that's not how it works.

Yes, we have all heard Moyes has final say.

Final say over what? Over the very limited pool of players the scouts and analysts agreed on who were willing to sign for us last season.

Let's not make out like he was given 100 million and could sign any player in the world and these were HIS choices. That's how this keeps being framed and it's not realistic at all.

If the pool of players to pick from was filled with crap then it's not a surprise that the players we picked from it were crap.

It's massively obvious that he pushed for KDH and Grealish. The others were second, third or even lower down the list.

We went through about three or four wingers before signing Dibling. Tried for two other strikers before resorting to Barry. These were not his first choices lads.

 

[davids]

As would some full backs for balance, pace outwide and playing with a bit of intensity.

Because;

• Stat Check: Only once in the last 18 league games have Everton recorded an Expected Goals (xG) in open-play of +1.0.

Be interesting to see if George who has pace plays and if Moyes can instill some intensity.

 

[Gilbert..]

Thing is though gents, I understood it when we had the likes of Demarai Gray, Jack Harrison, Jesper Lindstrom and we didn't have a pot to piss in to improve that. In fact, I'd routinely joke that our front 3 were are all from recently relegated teams;



... but we've spent a few bob since, and we've currently scored less at this stage of the season than we did in Dyche's full season.

Give Moyes full backs who can cross a half way line, some pace out wide and the striker he wanted in Liam Delap and we score more goals. But I still think he's getting less goals from this team than he should.

But it's certainly not a recent issue - I mean, Thomas Frank's Brentford scored more goals in the Prem last season than we've ever managed in it's history.

In 12 months the club has gone from annual relegation threatened seasons to the fading european spots.
Lets not kid ourselves that we bought players good enough to make the jump from relegation to europe. It was a hit and miss transfer spree. Show me a club that hits the bullseye everytime in the transfer market.
Its been a decent enough development to go from constantly looking over our shoulder to today. It another 12 months it probably wont be as acceptable.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Be interesting to see if George who has pace plays and if Moyes can instill some intensity.

Let's hope so, because it's painful watching us - particularly at home.

Burnley will just sit deep and then snide us on the break/set piece.

In 12 months the club has gone from annual relegation threatened seasons to the fading european spots.
Lets not kid ourselves that we bought players good enough to make the jump from relegation to europe. It was a hit and miss transfer spree. Show me a club that hits the bullseye everytime in the transfer market.
Its been a decent enough development to go from constantly looking over our shoulder to today. It another 12 months it probably wont be as acceptable.

Hello mate.

The last 2 seasons we've finished 20+ clear of relegation, and closer to Europe than relegation.

We aren't having points removed anymore - if you removed 10 points from us now, we'd be in Nottingham Forests position.

 

[smileychap]

Thing is though gents, I understood it when we had the likes of Demarai Gray, Jack Harrison, Jesper Lindstrom and we didn't have a pot to piss in to improve that. In fact, I'd routinely joke that our front 3 were are all from recently relegated teams;



... but we've spent a few bob since, and we've currently scored less at this stage of the season than we did in Dyche's full season.

Give Moyes full backs who can cross a half way line, some pace out wide and the striker he wanted in Liam Delap and we score more goals. But I still think he's getting less goals from this team than he should.

But it's certainly not a recent issue - I mean, Thomas Frank's Brentford scored more goals in the Prem last season than we've ever managed in it's history.

Good post. my question is if it's true 'Moyes signs off on everything', how did we end up with Jack, Rohl, Dibling and keep Seamus, when it was obviously two decent FBs that we needed.

That's a colossal amount of money wasted in the wrong direction.

 

[preposterousvelios]

I'm not getting to deep into with you as you're so warped about Moyes it doesnt matter what anyone says. You're not having it.
The last time Everton scored over 50 goals in a season was 2018 (54 goals)
fact that in 2021 and 2023 Moyes west ham scored 60 goals in both seasons tells you its been an Everton problem way longer than the past 12 months.

Tbh from my perspective most of debate from Moyes skeptics has been fairly nuanced. Obviously a couple posters go overboard after a loss but for the most part I think people have been patient, and conversation has only ever really been about if we make a change in summer.

Moyes loyalists on the other hand, I don't think have really been quite as objective. Posters such as yourself won't acknowledge obvious issues that are occurring as it would mean having to admit that Moyes could be doing things differently.

To talk about our goal scoring this season and say that it's fine because it tracks with how many goals we've generally been scoring over the last decade - obviously this is ignoring the fact that the last decade of Everton was the worst in our history. Any manager that came in after Dyche was going to have to raise basically every metric and Moyes hasn't.