Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

Granted it's population is small, but Iceland did some testing recently which indicated roughly 5% of the population was infected, with half of them showing no symptoms.

I have little knowledge of the demographics of Iceland, but suspect they'd have an average age below ours and their population would be heavily waited to the capital, so wouldn't expect those numbers to directly translate to the UK. But that % is a fair bit higher than what most experts expect ours to be ( <1% ), so it's important to know where we stand, so we can plug that figure back into the models.

The perfect scenario is everyone gets a test and we’re all locked up for a few weeks and they treat those with it.

 

[Nymzee]

Italy has. Need a few more days before we can confirm that for Spain

Are we claiming a peak when the deaths per day is lower than the day before?

I really don’t see how Italy can peak yet.

 

[Barnfred 55]

use the Oldies thread....

Ha. I'm only 59. Always thought that one was for the ancients

 

[roydo]

The perfect scenario is everyone gets a test and we’re all locked up for a few weeks and they treat those with it.

Treat them with what?

 

[Nymzee]

Treat them with what?

Whatever they’re currently doing to those that have recovered.

 

[roydo]

Ha. I'm only 59. Always thought that one was for the ancients

The cut off point is remembering spangles and massive wagon wheels.

 

[tsubaki]

That was promoted & used very early on when we knew the virus was coming even at the hard edge battlefront Airports etc .....

It wasn’t - there were no checks at U.K. ports of entry, and I think there still isn’t.

 

[roydo]

Whatever they’re currently doing to those that have recovered.

They are not doing anything though. The serious ones they are keeping alive on vents, until they pull through, or dont. Thats basically it.

 

[Nymzee]

They are not doing anything though. The serious ones they are keeping alive on vents, until they pull through, or dont. Thats basically it.

That’s still treating though isn’t it - we don’t have ventilators in our homes.

 

[Barnfred 55]

The cut off point is remembering spangles and massive wagon wheels.

Oh dear.

 

[peteblue]

Johnson gave the press conference on the friday at about a quarter past 5.

He said pubs should close as soon as they could. And that anyone thinking about heading out should stay inside.

Anyone who went out that night was daft and any bar who milked it by staying open until 11.59pm was reckless IMO.

Then he should have done it a bit earlier and with an instant close because most pubs were already open and many were already full of customers even at 5.15pm. So pub staff could either try and close and cause a riot or just close as normal as allowed. Town centres would have been chaotic if half the pubs closed and half didn’t thereby pushing even more people together. The pubs did as they were told, only those that have had lock ins didn’t and they should be shut down....

 

[tsubaki]

But do they know yet if it isn’t something we can get more than once?

I think the presumption is you can’t, and not sure it’s been confirmed that anyone actually has.

 

[BlueToff]

Cheers bud, hope you’re well too. Good news about the self-employed salary yeh?

To me people only seem to look at total cases and deaths but let’s face it - we should really add most of not all critical to the death right when assuming what’s gonna happen. This seems like it’s a right bugger to recover from.

Unfortunately, doesn't look I'm eligible. Have done my tax returns every year 16-19, which they are counting, but in that time 50% or more of my earnings didn't come from self-employment. I've been 'fully' self-employed since last April, so apparently I don't make the cut (as it stands). Just gonna have to hope that changes.

And yeh it's a good point. I'll try find the thing about how Germany are counting the deaths. Just think it's an important figure that needs to be counted the same across the board (maybe they are doing now and they really have just managed to keep it that low, but it seems very low - even factoring in those in a critical condition).

 

[Catfish Blues]

The perfect scenario is everyone gets a test and we’re all locked up for a few weeks and they treat those with it.

Wouldn't argue with that mate, certainly in the short term.

But, in the medium term, you need to know who's had it, because it makes it easier to plan what to do next, which, for example would be very different for infection rates of 0.5%, 5% or 50%.

Obviously that assumes that having been infected offers some degree of immunity, which we don't know one way or the other, but that'll take time to find out, so you have to do what's possible here and now, and make educated guesses on the rest.

 

[Barnfred 55]

The cut off point is remembering spangles and massive wagon wheels.

Which forum is it in. I'll go and introduce myself