Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Ah that’s a shame mate. Does not working fully self-employed April to now not count as one financial year though?

Yeh, how are they discerning who died because of coronavirus and those that have it but died of something else? Is that even possible?

It will do once a tax return is done (albeit I'm not in a position to afford to pay it yet). But as of yesterday they weren't counting self-employed people who set up in 2019-20.

It's all very confusing. I didn't set up in 2019-20 (set up in 16-17) but they are only counting 16 through to 19 as it stands. At first I was annoyed as that'd mean they'd be basing it off pretty much part-time wages, rather than full-time wages like it has been for the last year. But at least it'd be something. Then came the hammer blow that actually it's only if you've got that 50%. So God knows. Hoping for another tweak to it next week and will be speaking to an accountant on Monday. Trying not to worry though. I have enough to get me through two months - nowt to spend on I suppose!

And yeh I know. It's really difficult.

Someone could have had a condition and this has just weakened their system further, for example.

As far as I can tell, the vast majority of deaths come from the above, and not actually the virus itself as the direct cause. So it's really difficult to be able to put a gauge on it I suppose.
 
No chance it will be that late, or if it does it will mean civilisation is wiped out.

The exponential function is the key here. As soon as the rate of growth has peaked then we are technically over the worst.

A jump from 100 cases to 150 cases to 250 to 500 cases over 3-4 days are daily increases of 50%, 66% and 100%, which is the dangerous phase. Conversely, a jump from 10,000 to 15,000 to 21,000 to 28,000, while the number of increases in total cases may be alarmingly, the percentage increases are 50%, 40%, 35%, so the rate of change is decreasing, and it becomes possible to project the eventual end.



Yep. April is gonna be rough, especially the first two weeks.

The NHS/gov's aim will be to keep deaths per-day down below Spain and Italy. If they manage that, as grim as it is, it has to be considered something of a positive.
 
That’s the Mediterranean Diet kicked into touch...

Hah.

Yeh, I mean it may not be diet particularly.

Just everything all in one. How they live – a lot in tight streets etc - the amount of smokers.

You don't see housing estates in Spain or Italy, really, do you. The cities are cramped and tight. Even though both countries have a lot of open space, they live a totally different way to how we do. Generally, outside of the major cities/inner cities, we have plenty of space here, especially in the north.
 
Are we claiming a peak when the deaths per day is lower than the day before?

I really don’t see how Italy can peak yet.

The number I'm tracking is the reported new cases, and specifically the percentage change from the previous day. When the percentage change starts to trends down that means we are past the peak. The absolute daily numbers will be greater because the base of already-confirmed cases will be greater.

Note this assumes that the testing prevelance and methodology is consistent, which in practice it won't be.
 
The number I'm tracking is the reported new cases, and specifically the percentage change from the previous day. When the percentage change starts to trends down that means we are past the peak. The absolute daily numbers will be greater because the base of already-confirmed cases will be greater.

Note this assumes that the testing prevelance and methodology is consistent, which in practice it won't be.
Lombardy has expanded its testing from only those with multiple symptoms to those with just one symptom so it is possible that we see a worse rate for a few days when those are processed. Overall will give a more accurate reflection of current status though.
 
A host GP was on LBC answering questions he reckons the virus could have been in the UK as early as November ....as China were not that forthcoming of the original breakout of Covid 19......

We were musing that a few days ago, based on loads of us getting really crappy colds and aches and stuff around Christmas.
 
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