Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

Germany only reporting 399 deaths from 53,000 confirmed cases.

Is that just because they were only counting deaths which weren't related to underlying conditions?

I know they're better than us and introduced the lockdown quicker too, but surely they haven't been able to keep it that low?

Why they and South Korea have been able to do this really should be an urgent focus for the world.

 

[navidson]

I think it will be September sorry to be even gloomier.....

Christ don't tell me that...

 

[Nymzee]

Germany only reporting 399 deaths from 53,000 confirmed cases.

Is that just because they were only counting deaths which weren't related to underlying conditions?

I know they're better than us and introduced the lockdown quicker too, but surely they haven't been able to keep it that low?

Not sure on their reporting but they also seem to be the hub of all ventilators so maybe they’re just decent at keeping people going. How many of the cases are in critical condition? Might be a useful stat to see who they’re just keeping propped up.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

I think it will be September sorry to be even gloomier.....

Based on what?

 

[Joey66]

I also think mass testing at this point is proper pointless as well. Why mass test whilst we’re only at the start of the virus? You could just get it a few days after the test anyway.

That was promoted & used very early on when we knew the virus was coming even at the hard edge battlefront Airports etc .....

 

[royalblue66]

Johnson gave the press conference on the friday at about a quarter past 5.

He said pubs should close as soon as they could. And that anyone thinking about heading out should stay inside.

Anyone who went out that night was daft and any bar who milked it by staying open until 11.59pm was reckless IMO.

Didn't he say, "pubs would not be opening after that day (which was the Friday. ?

 

[BlueToff]

Why they and South Korea have been able to do this really should be an urgent focus for the world.

I know they've tested more. South Korea didn't even lockdown as far as I'm aware.

Just with Germany - I know I read last week that they were - at that stage - not counting the deaths of people who had serious conditions (as it was often those conditions which were killing them, just induced by covid-19).

Look, i'm sure they probably will keep the deaths down. But if they aren't counting all the COVID-19/respiratory related deaths (which we are) then it's skewing the figures and these figures are massively important.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

But do they know yet if it isn’t something we can get more than once?

Testing might help find out no?

 

[Joey66]

Based on what?

Just an Inkling every country is different of course....

 

[BlueToff]

Not sure on their reporting but they also seem to be the hub of all ventilators so maybe they’re just decent at keeping people going. How many of the cases are in critical condition? Might be a useful stat to see who they’re just keeping propped up.

Good point Nymz, and welcome back to the madhouse, hope you're doing alright relatively speaking (for comparison, UK's critical is 163, from 15,935 active cases)

Active cases and critical, according to WHO

46,283

1,581

 

[Nymzee]

Testing might help find out no?

Testing those with symptoms, yes. But heard from a clamour of people that want tested and don’t even have symptoms which is very baffling.

 

[Nymzee]

Good point Nymz, and welcome back to the madhouse, hope you're doing alright relatively speaking.

Active cases and critical, according to WHO

46,283

1,581

Cheers bud, hope you’re well too. Good news about the self-employed salary yeh?

To me people only seem to look at total cases and deaths but let’s face it - we should really add most of not all critical to the death right when assuming what’s gonna happen. This seems like it’s a right bugger to recover from.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I also think mass testing at this point is proper pointless as well. Why mass test whilst we’re only at the start of the virus? You could just get it a few days after the test anyway.

Granted it's population is small, but Iceland did some testing recently which indicated roughly 5% of the population was infected, with half of them showing no symptoms.

I have little knowledge of the demographics of Iceland, but suspect they'd have an average age below ours and their population would be heavily waited to the capital, so wouldn't expect those numbers to directly translate to the UK. But that % is a fair bit higher than what most experts expect ours to be ( <1% ), so it's important to know where we stand, so we can plug that figure back into the models.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Italy and Spain have both peaked. The absolute number of new daily cases may seem large but that is because the existing number is also large. In terms of geometric growth they are both seem to be past the peak and the percentage growth per day is slowing.

Italy has. Need a few more days before we can confirm that for Spain

 

[tsubaki]

I know they've tested more. South Korea didn't even lockdown as far as I'm aware.

Just with Germany - I know I read last week that they were - at that stage - not counting the deaths of people who had serious conditions (as it was often those conditions which were killing them, just induced by covid-19).

Look, i'm sure they probably will keep the deaths down. But if they aren't counting all the COVID-19/respiratory related deaths (which we are) then it's skewing the figures and these figures are massively important.

Perhaps, though that counting thing might have been a dead cat deployed when the government tried to change the counting rules. I do wonder if it’s something more simple than that though, like better social health or even something mad like diet.