Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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If you look about midway through this article they have a picture of him from when he was going through a “bodybuilding phase”. This is uneducated speak for “using copious amounts of drugs”. It is very possible this will have affected him.
Bodybuilding doesn’t always mean steroid abuse. If we’re in the business of making assumptions, then you’d have thought if he was against the vaccine being injected he’d be against pumping himself full of roids.
 
Groupthink. Explain to me how people are a threat to society if they’re not going to be hospitalised or become seriously ill with covid?
Only looking at the hospitalisation parts - because I imagine everyone who ends up in hospital unvaccinated at whatever age thought it wasn't going to happen to them either, though I agree age is a bigger factor. But it happens to some people and that's what causes the issues with capacity in ICU.

Its where the shielding the vulnerable argument turns on its head - when there's high prevalence the unvaccinated become part of that view if you're looking at hospital capacity.

I repeat, I don't want a booster so see myself in this group.

I'm not convinced by the reducing transmission idea so don't see being vaccinated as actually protecting anyone outside the health service
 


 
Bodybuilding doesn’t always mean steroid abuse. If we’re in the business of making assumptions, then you’d have thought if he was against the vaccine being injected he’d be against pumping himself full of roids.
99% of people who step onto a bodybuilding stage will be using various forms of drugs. In fact PED use in gyms amongst recreational lifters is much more widespread than people think. So to think someone who actually stepped onto stage and competed wasn’t taking anything is naive.

You can call it an assumption but as someone involved in the fitness industry I can say with confidence that he was using. It is simply accepted that the competition is always enhanced. If you can honestly look at that photo of him from the guardian article and think his physique is natural then I have some magic beans to sell you.

Now if what you were actually saying was that he may have only been taking small doses of steroids and not “abusing” them, then I would accept this point but also counter again by saying the types of dosages people take to get on stage are not small and as people age larger doses are required.

As to your last point, a large amount of resistance to the vaccines seems to have come from fitness types. Which as you rightly point out is very hypocritical given how used to needles these people are and how they’re quite happy for the juice head in the gym who works on the doors to jab them in their glutes with some cocktail of drugs in a vial coming out of a duffel bag but won’t pop down to a pharmacy to have a scientifically backed vaccine administered by professionals.
 
Actually this isn’t true at all. If a clinically obese person catches covid, they’re probably going to suffer far worse symptoms and end up in hospital or suffer from long term respiratory problems as a result of their already poor health, regardless of if they’ve been vaccinated or not. A 29 year old, 12 stone, fit and healthy adult with no underlying health conditions who also happens to be unvaccinated, is almost certainly not being admitted to hospital if they catch covid.
Yeah you missed the point. Hope they get the vaccine and reduce their risk, huh? Just get the vaccine Mike. Or at least give a reason not to. You don’t have one though other than some goofy ideology that’s gonna keep us in this garbage for longer than we need to.
 
Yeah you missed the point. Hope they get the vaccine and reduce their risk, huh? Just get the vaccine Mike. Or at least give a reason not to. You don’t have one though other than some goofy ideology that’s gonna keep us in this garbage for longer than we need to.

What are you dribbling on about? It’s a “goofy ideology” that covid doesn’t pose a serious enough risk to me personally to require a vaccine? Here’s a tip too by the way, pass this on to your Facebook and Twitter drones - the bully tactics don’t work, never have and never will. That doesn’t make anyone want to get the vaccine any more, in fact it’s more likely to put people off if you’re acting like a complete melt about it and refusing to even acknowledge people’s reasons.
 
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The transition in here from caring member of society to arrogant conspiracy theorist on the back of being mildly inconvenienced is astonishing. Is that really all it takes for people to starting shouting absolutes on topics they haven't any qualification in? Running down dedicated experts, holding entirely insincere mental health concerns and siding with cretins like laurence fox? I dread to think what other circumstances these folk would allow themselves to become anti-science if they had a even greater inconvenience than a sore arm for two days.

Very scary stuff, you can see how the likes of trump, bolosanaro and Johnson gain power with this me me me prioritising
 
I’m sorry but this physique is impossible to achieve without steroids.

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Nah sorry mate, but I’ve got to disagree with you massively there. Speaking from experience, I started bodybuilding about 5 years ago in my mid 30’s and made a promise to myself that I wouldn’t use gear. I wanted to do it based on hard work, determination and will power alone. This is my before and after picture. I’d like to think that my transformation proves that you can achieve the changes you want without using steroids or other PEDs. You simply need to #believe

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I’m sorry but this physique is impossible to achieve without steroids.
i think it’s just a fair amount of assumptions that’s all. He may well have been using steroids that may have weakened his immune system or whatever. But we don’t know for sure either way and I don’t think it’s particularly fair to speculate.
Supposedly healthy people have died and many affected by long covid as well which sounds particularly grim.
 
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