Nah sorry mate, but I’ve got to disagree with you massively there. Speaking from experience, I started bodybuilding about 5 years ago in my mid 30’s and made a promise to myself that I wouldn’t use gear. I wanted to do it based on hard work, determination and will power alone. This is my before and after picture. I’d like to think that my transformation proves that you can achieve the changes you want without using steroids or other PEDs. You simply need to #believe
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lol lol lol