I think what they are worried about is the refuseniks. If say ten percent of the country are unvaccinated, and it spreads like wildfire, then you could it seems to me have an overload. We need to know though. I'm not wild about the idea of going into lockdown to protect people who were offered the vaccine, and then are adding significantly to the numbers making the lights flash for the nhs.
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Moderna is becoming more common with the boosters as only need 50 micrograms for a booster vs 100 micrograms for the first 2 doses so the more limited UK stocks of it are getting stretched twice as far. Pfizer booster is same dosage as initial shots.
Moderna seeks U.S. authorization of COVID-19 booster shots for all adults
Moderna Inc said on Wednesday it had applied with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for authorization of its COVID-19 booster vaccine for all adults aged 18 and older.
Human nature.
Seanjd
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I don’t get this type of comment. Vaccinations prevented countless deaths and got us to a place where we can resume most ‘normal’ activities. And, if vaccinations didn’t happen, the boosters currently being rolled out wouldn’t be nearly as effective.
What’s your point?
People are just rubbish at dealing with lack of control and helplessness really.
There’s no way that this Government has the moral authority any more to place restrictions on us after the way they’ve broken the rules themselves and used this whole thing to profiteer from.....I hope that if this continues then more and more people refuse to lock down and business's across the country refuse to close en masse and that the Government are forced into accepting that never again will the British people allow them to remove our basic freedoms. Pandemic or not, this Government have gone too far now. I’m triple jabbed and I’m happy to have further vaccines in the future, but never again will I allow this Government to tell me when I’m allowed to leave my home.
I went the shop today and was honestly surprised to see everyone wearing a mask. Good stuff.
I just think people should be past judging others. Look, it's here to stay. With most people this new one genuinely is a cold. The government have to way up whether that's worth shutting everything down for. They have to come up with a way of making sure frontline healthcare workers aren't isolating unless absolutely necessary. They need to do a lot of things and the very last resort should be to make it illegal for someone to go round and see their family.
Seanjd
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I think the way people can show their disgust is in the ballot box. Don’t vote for the party who refuse to follow the rules and profiteer.
If following the rules reduces multiple deaths, we should all do it.
Lag times for severe outcomes are typically ~ 5 days from case to hospital, 8 days to icu, 20 days to death although these might have changed slightly with Omicron and rates are also impacted by age profile.
CharliePotato
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Seems like your good at taking it in and understanding by the sounds of things.
that's true but the official word from the Dr who discovered the strain in SA is it shows very mild symptoms in unvaccinated people too.
However, you are obviously more at risk of developing severe symptoms if unvaccinated.
I think the issue atm is - and me and @LinekersLegs briefly touched on this the other day - that Delta is still so prominent in the UK right now. In SA, Omicron has completely taken over (98%), so there is very little Delta left.
The UK is kind of experiencing the start of a second endemic here while there is another one still ongoing. However, they are predicting Omicron to be the dominant strain within a week or so. If that does happen, we could see Delta replaced and suddenly the hospitalisation numbers may not be as great. We really don't know yet because of the lag between cases and hospitalisations but we can say that so far things do look positive with Omicron when it comes to hospitalisations.
Think this is why I’m rather be a bit cautious. There’s always a lag that makes things look at little rosier than they are.
Seanjd
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I agree in some respects. I think where seeing family is involved then that needs to be the choice of the individual.
Ultimately, we are still at a point where we aren’t certain about the severity of this variant or other factors like the longer effects. While that uncertainty exists, we should be doing what we can not to let vulnerable/elderly be exposed to it.
By allowing mass parties etc to continue while it is spreading the way it is will only increase the risk of a vulnerable person contracting it and potentially being hospitalised or worse.
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Can you arrange for our cricketers to be quarantined please?
Age mix is going to distort for a while too. The biggest uncertainty I personally have is the hospital rates in the 40 to 60 age range who are double vaccinated with AZ a while ago but not boosted - there (at least prior to the last week of booster rollout) quite a lot of them.
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