Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Aberblue said:
Without minimising the effects on those involved, the vast majority of this country's population were not really directly affected by those conflicts. This is different.
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I know it is mate. But like I've said, unless you were alive in, what, 1919(?) nobody has gone through a pandemic like this?

Wasn't it mad cow (late 60s?) which was the last one and even that wasn't this bad.
 
A full on lockdown feels inevitable at this point. They should just put it in place and get it over with. The longer you’ve got people going to packed workplaces and swanning about in groups treating it like a summer holiday, the more lives are at risk and the quicker this virus spreads.

I will lose all income for however long the lockdown needs to happen, but it’s only going to get worse and worse if they don’t act.
 
BlueToff said:
Look, when this is all over there will be inquiries. The herd immunity thing could have been the right approach in different circumstances but far too much risk with it.

For now they're taking measures no government has had to in generations and also pumping in an unprecedented amount of money (and more of that will be needed).

I fully agree that we're having to take such measures and pump so much money in because of the cuts this mob have been making for the last 10 years, and using the over-expenditure before them to justify it.

For now we have to get through these next few months and hope that the deaths are kept down to as few as possible. It's still going to be in the thousands but if we can avoid it getting into the 30,40s... well it'll be a 'positive'.

From there there will have to be severe repercussions for all governments. Not just ours. None of them acted quickly enough.
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The herd immunity thing as they wanted to implement it would never have been the right approach.

For it to have had any chance of working they would have had to confine everyone over 50, and everyone with conditions that would put them at risk, to their homes for as long as it took for everyone else to catch and get over it. That was not what they were going to do; they were just going to let it go through the population and if it killed 100000 people (as reported in the ST article) then that was the price that had to be paid for not trashing the economy.
 
Harryflashman said:
my guess is because they have to go to Work and half the tubes have been shut down . I’m happy to criticise some people treating this like a holiday but some of them are probably nhs staff or key workers
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Partially closing the Tube down was a daft idea - just before I got ill I went to Hendon on the Northern Line and at 8am on a Monday morning it was virtually empty. All restricting services has done is make the ones that are running busier.
 
DanB90 said:
A full on lockdown feels inevitable at this point. They should just put it in place and get it over with. The longer you’ve got people going to packed workplaces and swanning about in groups treating it like a summer holiday, the more lives are at risk and the quicker this virus spreads.

I will lose all income for however long the lockdown needs to happen, but it’s only going to get worse and worse if they don’t act.
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I think it depends on what the Governments next step is tbh. If they are intending to manage the numbers infected in the hopes of building immunity then you still need folk going outside its just the numbers need to be carefully reduced which is why pubs, bars, events, shops, restaurants etc are largely shut.

Ultimately we just have to trust the government on this - they have a plan and know when is the right time to do what - I feel idiots on social media demanding the Govt do this and do that will cause greater harm to us in the long run.

Lets not forget its not just a pandemic at play here you have economic factors, political, social, ethical etc. Which the government will be getting advice from experts in those specific fields.

The sooner folk just start worrying about themselves and not what Paul from Reading is or isn't doing the better and just put trust in our PM regardless of your political leanings.
 
BlueToff said:
I know it is mate. But like I've said, unless you were alive in, what, 1919(?) nobody has gone through a pandemic like this?

Wasn't it mad cow (late 60s?) which was the last one and even that wasn't this bad.
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Mad Cow was in the late 80's/early 90's I think? And there's been like a couple of hundred cases in humans EVER. it's not even remotely comparable.
 
tim cahill said:
In some cases, but when all people are allowed to do is go for a walk we shouldn't be that surprised that lots of people go for a walk where it's popular to go for a walk. The message from Johnson has been all over the place. That's the bigger problem.
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Just go for walks along the streets. Not exactly difficult.

The problem for a lot of people seems to be that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
 
tsubaki said:
That was not what they were going to do; they were just going to let it go through the population and if it killed 100000 people (as reported in the ST article) then that
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Yea, it seems they changed their plan when the estimate of the deaths went from 100k to 250/300k. The fact that they were willing to let 100k die, is scary, but, at some point you have to draw a line at what number of excess deaths is "acceptable".

Each death will involve someone's nan, brother, friend etc, and is individually tragic, but the best you can realistically do, is accept an excess number of deaths which is in line with a moderately bad flu season. so you'd be talking about 25 to 30k.

I know that sounds utterly heartless, but it's probably the reality of the situation.
 
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