Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Just listening to Gary Neville and Ryan Giggs on BBC Breakfast news, I'd rather have them in charge that that dangerous buffoon that is suppose to be PM. For this government, and the 'medical experts', not to have taken notice of what the response around the world has been to get on top of this virus, in particular in the Far East, the WHO - total lock down, eventually followed by Italy and Spain when compared to Johnson's erratic and inconsistent 'advice'.

It's getting to the stage were local councils in conjunction with the local health professionals, local MPs, fire fighters, the trade union movement, the police take it upon themselves to organise people locally to have a total lock down. They'll need local volunteers who will need to be tested to make sure the sick, elderly, weak, vulnerable, disabled are looked after. The great army of under paid care workers who home visit those in need, will have to be tested.

At times like this it needs leadership which is solely lacking at present. The government is blaming individuals for their behaviour for not acting in the collective good - not taking notice of social distancing, bulk buying, etc. - while at the same time saying 'it's alright to go outside for exercise but stay 2 mteres away'' but then saying 'stay at home' Incredible delusional mixed messages. It is quite ironic because the Tories don't do collective society - 'no such thing as society' said Thatcher - which has been the constant mantra of Tories ever since - they exhort individual needs and wants over collective good. The individual is king and queen message has been promoted by the Tories constantly. We need a collective response and these Tories are found wanting.

Local people need to take control of the situation in their area and get proper advice from local health professionals, the WHO and ask China, South Korea, Singapore for advice and help. The UKs medical and scientific 'experts' have been found wanting. No wonder local doctors and medical professionals are saying simple 'don't go out, stay at home, we're frightened'. The letter from 5 000 professionals sums up this incompetent, pathetic and lying response from this government.

During the reading of the Coronavirus bill, Labour and others need to move a motion of no confidence in Johnson. The longer the Tories are in charge of this crisis, the longer this inconsistent and lackadaisical approach will continue and that is dangerous to us all.

Take your soap box elsewhere mate and leave the politics out of it.

There`s a time and a place and this isn`t it.
 
A question I posed in another thread....

I’m a frontline worker, I don’t mind working and am happy to do more if needed. I understand the government saying if you’re company tells you not to come to work you are entitled to 80% of your wages. That’s great.
But as I’m having to carry on working I’m obviously putting myself at further risk of exposure to deliver an essential service. If I do eventually become unwell and have to go off sick then I will only receive SSP of £95 a week. How can that be right ? I’m not asking for any more for doing my job... I don’t expect that at all, I love my job and will continue as long as I can but I do feel annoyed that I won’t be financially protected if I become unwell.
 
Construction sites in London are still open.

Why? It’s not critical work ffs. It’s so typical of the pathetic macho culture that is still deeply ridden within construction and why as an industry it’s still stuck in the past.

According to the office manager there are people in the site office who have underlying health conditions, the only reason why they’re not at home is because they’re either being pressured to be in or they have been told they won’t be getting paid if they self isolate (as I was).

It’s pathetic and incredibly irresponsible.
 
....as most will know, my daughter is a Consultant Surgeon. Worryingly for us, her specialty means she’s been transferred to the Intensive Care Unit. She suspected she would.

Regardless, she’s just sent us and her brother a really severe message from hospital - ‘stay in the fckn house’. They fear the [Poor language removed] will truly hit the fan and when it does the young will take priority. Best if I don’t go into detail, but its likely to get very bad and lots could die.

i know we all realise how serious this is but it‘s genuinely likely to get critical. Don’t visit the family, don’t mind the grandkids, don’t allow folk in your house, thoroughly clean your door handles and stay inside if you possibly can.
 
Construction sites in London are still open.

Why? It’s not critical work ffs. It’s so typical of the pathetic macho culture that is still deeply ridden within construction and why as an industry it’s still stuck in the past.

According to the office manager there are people in the site office who have underlying health conditions, the only reason why they’re not at home is because they’re either being pressured to be in or they have been told they won’t be getting paid if they self isolate (as I was).

It’s pathetic and incredibly irresponsible.
Same here in Mid Wales, construction workers at work, my neighbour scaffolder went off to work at his usual time.
 
....as most will know, my daughter is a Consultant Surgeon. Worryingly for us, her specialty means she’s been transferred to the Intensive Care Unit. She suspected she would.

Regardless, she’s just sent us and her brother a really severe message from hospital - ‘stay in the fckn house’. They fear the [Poor language removed] will truly hit the fan and when it does the young will take priority. Best if I don’t go into detail, but its likely to get very bad and lots could die.

i know we all realise how serious this is but it‘s genuinely likely to get critical. Don’t visit the family, don’t mind the grandkids, don’t allow folk in your house, thoroughly clean your door handles and stay inside if you possibly can.

Hearing similar from my mates missus who is a GP :(
 
A question I posed in another thread....

I’m a frontline worker, I don’t mind working and am happy to do more if needed. I understand the government saying if you’re company tells you not to come to work you are entitled to 80% of your wages. That’s great.
But as I’m having to carry on working I’m obviously putting myself at further risk of exposure to deliver an essential service. If I do eventually become unwell and have to go off sick then I will only receive SSP of £95 a week. How can that be right ? I’m not asking for any more for doing my job... I don’t expect that at all, I love my job and will continue as long as I can but I do feel annoyed that I won’t be financially protected if I become unwell.
And just to add.... I’m not one of the people entitled to free drinks or reduced meals from some of our generous food outlets either ... I don’t work for nhs or the emergency services..... we seem to have been forgotten lol lol
 
They went with a bad chest infectition when the Sars. Virus was around...... Read my post - it can help, it can do no harm itself - an old remedy for breathing problems.....
My very late wise Grandma used it on the family no NHS for most of her life .....

Absolutely it does no harm. All I'm saying is that it may have coincided with getting better - that doesn't mean it's the reason they got better.
 
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