Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Either way, I can't see the % of people wearing masks going up much tbh. It's just going to result in confrontation and more fractures.

Taking them away and then partially introducing them again isn't going to revitalise people's mindset , which I guess is @Tubey 's point.
 
Wizard said:
We’re already on 3 jabs in less than a year if you get your booster. It’s not new
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And it’s ludicrous when there’s developing nations who have hardly any first doses. With what Johnson proposed today you’re looking at 3 doses in a year for healthy people in their 20’s which is crazy.

At what point can we have a grown up conversation and say that the vaccines are good but we definitely need better ones. Whether it’s possible to get “all encompassing” ones for this virus that tackle most if not all variants is the issue.
 
roydo said:
Why do you need to be told by anyone that a decent thing to do is a good idea? Masks dont protect you alone, they protect other folk. But hey, high horse.
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As said, I have voluntarily done it throughout this whole thing.

From July.

Tubey said:
I've said repeatedly I'll still wear masks in crowded spaces, not because I need to be told to, but because I'm not an arsehole.

People shouldn't need the government to legally mandate them not to be awful, except in an emergency. The problem now is the definition of what constitutes an emergency - all the government has done is draw a reasonable line in the sand on this.
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But we're now in a position where I'm not harming anybody and nobody is harming me, and that's the case for 99% of the population. Everyone afraid of COVID has been offered or had vaccination. Only those unvaccinated are being killed by it. Yet I'd have continued to wear a mask voluntarily on the tiny, infinitesimal chance it made someone feel better.

But I draw the line at being told to by Johnson for no logical reason. Because there's no logical reason a mask mandate is required now when it wasn't two, three, four weeks ago, or four months ago. Just as there'll be no logical reason to ever lift it now, because COVID is endemic.
 
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All of this seems coincidental.

There was always going to be restrictions this winter in some capacity. There just had to be , it would have been ridicuous not to.

So instead of just announcing measures for the winter, it's off the back of a 'oh my god another variant!'.

And you wonder why people question all of this! It's transparent as they come , nothing changed and within 24 hours of 'discovering' a new variant , things change.

Load of nonsense now. I just wish the government could be competent enough to have said all of this back on July 19th , opening the country up but December 1st masks and stuff are coming back for the winter as a precautionary measure.
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Aye that’s right mate… All the governments of the world have come together to concoct a made up new mutant virus just to ruin our Xmas here in the UK.
 
coollino said:
Either way, I can't see the % of people wearing masks going up much tbh. It's just going to result in confrontation and more fractures.

Taking them away and then partially introducing them again isn't going to revitalise people's mindset , which I guess is @Tubey 's point.
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I think from a public health point of view experts have thought and advised it was a good idea for a while, politically i think the new varient may have been the smoke screen to hide regression. The UK posted 50k cases yesterday, that the first time its crossed that threshold this winter, the measures are the clever play - fair play to UK government.
 
Neiler said:
I think from a public health point of view experts have thought and advised it was a good idea for a while, politically i think the new varient may have been the smoke screen to hide regression. The UK posted 50k cases yesterday, that the first time its crossed that threshold this winter, the measures are the clever play - fair play to UK government.
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I don't know why cases are still seen as the important statistic - they simply aren't. It's hospitalisations and deaths.
 
Tubey said:
Indeed, that was my point above. All that matters apparently is caseload.

So if COVID is only killing the unvaccinated or the very vulnerable who'd have died regardless (99%+ at this point), then what's changed now to make a mask mandate necessary now and not necessary forever?

They said they'll revisit in three weeks - why? What will have changed? The variant will still be in circulation. Even if by some chance there's no more cases, there will be of the next dominant variant or whatever, so why on earth would we stop the mandate ever if it's deemed mandatory now?
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We are at the point where things aren't making sense at all and all evidence is being discarded to suit a theoretical idea that is long since outdated.

Are we disregarding evidence now? What was the point in everyone getting a vaccine so urgently as soon as they could if the end result is we then go back to acting like the vaccine doesn't exist in the vast majority of the population? This is something I have said for a while, the way it's reported alone disregards the vaccine existence.

So essentially as of next week , going shopping or transport we are all wearing masks again to stop each other getting covid , despite knowing we are all vaccinated and therefore proven at this point to not get seriously ill even if we did have it?
 
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